Brexit is destroying Britain

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stewart

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Old McDonald said:
As I have previously posted I disagree with most of what you have to say about Brexit and the UK, but you post responsibly on most occasions so am quite happy to deal with you. I particularly liked the way you tried to educate wanton dwarf about non dom status.

I completely disagree with your opening paragraph. I was told by the department responsible (I forget the name) that Portugal did not require other EU citizens to obtain a Residence Permit whereas those from a third country did. The imposition of such a regulation is contrary to the idea of FoM. It applies to all non Portuguese.

I never claimed I was discriminated against. I had no desire to use the swimming pool. As a measure of support for his posts, I merely posted to WD that such rules existed in Portugal. I did this because some posters had claimed it was not so in the EU. As usual of course some anti-Brit has to join in and bring up all sorts of accusations and unrelated matters. Why do they do it apart from the overriding desire to rubbish the UK and the majority who decided to leave the EU? They have left so it should be the end of their involvement. They must be very bitter people who are shortening their own lives with such attitudes. Life was never meant to be easy (Malcolm Fraser) just get on with what the world throws at you. Accept what happened as the rest of us did in 1975.

Anyway, as far as Australia is concerned I have posted at 6th paragraph in #4778 my lead up to the event that led to our position when we decided to move to Australia – final paragraph #4797.

Australia most definitely is not an easy place to farm. Ask @Farmer Roy who is not far from where we were. Droughts (real droughts), rabbits, mice plagues, locust plagues, floods – have you ever seen a river that was more than 50 miles wide?

After being married about 10 years we found we were to become parents. That completely changed any thoughts of the future. It was 30 miles to the school he would have to start at, being picked up by the school bus 4 miles from home. Like a neighbour, we decided that was unreasonable so prepared the place for sale and I looked for employment in a town. Easy to get a start in local government with my previous experience and within 6 months I was heading the finance department. I began a distance learning degree majoring in Law and Accountancy – the statutory qualification for Chief Executive posts. I moved a couple of times and ended up in Bombala in the south of NSW. By this time it was obvious the boy was smarter than your average fence post so we decided he needed to be educated elsewhere than Australia where it is necessary to be good at some sport to succeed.

That is when I committed the heinous sin for an anti EU person and moved into it. Hypocrisy of the highest order. How could I do such a thing?

We moved back to our native Northumberland, and then soon afterwards to Inverness. I found employment as Deputy Director of Finance to the main hospital and we bought a few acres on the Black Isle which for obvious reasons we called Hazza Farm and built a house.

Our decision to have him educated in Scotland (local authority school) proved correct. By the time he was 22 he had an Honours Masters from St Andrews in Astrophysics, another Masters in Radio Astronomy from Manchester and had begun his PhD at Keele.
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I had to go back to post #4778 to get a fuller picture of your Australian experience. Very interesting that you felt a UK education was preferable to an Australian one, I do agree that sport is a major factor in Australian life, it’s similar here.
Having lived in Australia for as long as you did you would have obtained citizenship for yourselves and your family so the option is always there to return if anyone wanted to.
I’m involved in a company that grows fruit in Australia (Shepparton) so am painfully aware of the harsh realities of growing crops in the lucky country, it aint easy that’s for sure.
 
Aspiring Peasants

Aspiring Peasants

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George Osborne's 'Ludicrous' Emergency Brexit Budget Threat Undermined Remain, IFS Boss Paul Johnson Says​

'It was very clearly not a credible threat'.
Jack Sommers
By
Jack Summers
14/01/2017 08:02am GMT|Updated January 14, 2017



George Osborne has been lambasted by one of Britain’s most respected economists for his “ludicrous” June threat to cut spending and raise taxes in an emergency budget
In some of the strongest criticisms yet of the ex-chancellor’s doomed Remain campaign, Paul Johnson, director of the Institute for Fiscal Studies (IFS), said Osborne had “undermined” economic arguments for staying in Europe.
 
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Old McDonald

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stewart said:
I had to go back to post #4778 to get a fuller picture of your Australian experience. Very interesting that you felt a UK education was preferable to an Australian one, I do agree that sport is a major factor in Australian life, it’s similar here.
Having lived in Australia for as long as you did you would have obtained citizenship for yourselves and your family so the option is always there to return if anyone wanted to.
I’m involved in a company that grows fruit in Australia (Shepparton) so am painfully aware of the harsh realities of growing crops in the lucky country, it aint easy that’s for sure.
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I gave you the links to make it easy for you. I reckoned you would not have bothered to read my posts. Few people do – or anyone else’s for that matter, even if they are in the mutual fan club. They automatically just give a like.

What our son achieved academically would have been impossible in Australia. Being a definite non-sporting type he would not have got places in the more prestigious Universities. My own degree is with Charles Sturt Uni, Bathurst. I do not know where that stands, but it has to be way below St Andrews – which gave him a good Bursary along with their offer of a place. Whilst he is non-sporting he is fit and has quite a lot of Munros under his feet. He can also shovel sh!t with the best of them and has the instinct to be in the right place when moving stock. What more could anybody ask?

We did not become Australian citizens. We would never give up our British nationality. The cost of living is far too high in Australia for anyone on our level of income. We definitely could not afford to live there now. When I was there being an employee made it probably one of the best places in the world. It possibly still is, but I do not know.

The year before we left we had an idea he needed to be educated back home and we took a few weeks to check out the UK for schools. We decided Fortrose on the Black Isle appeared to have the best reputation amongst those living local to the schools – admittedly we only checked a smallish number north of The Wall in places we considered desirable to live. When we returned to Australia our son was given a one month’s visitor’s visa, despite the fact he was born there and we had his birth certificate with us. We made no progress with having that fixed, his visa expired of course, and it hastened our decision to leave by a few months.
 
le bon paysan

le bon paysan

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Limousin, France
Aspiring Peasants said:

George Osborne's 'Ludicrous' Emergency Brexit Budget Threat Undermined Remain, IFS Boss Paul Johnson Says​

'It was very clearly not a credible threat'.
Jack Sommers
By
Jack Summers
14/01/2017 08:02am GMT|Updated January 14, 2017



George Osborne has been lambasted by one of Britain’s most respected economists for his “ludicrous” June threat to cut spending and raise taxes in an emergency budget
In some of the strongest criticisms yet of the ex-chancellor’s doomed Remain campaign, Paul Johnson, director of the Institute for Fiscal Studies (IFS), said Osborne had “undermined” economic arguments for staying in Europe.
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You didn't put the link up😂
I can see why.
Anyone sane reading it to the end will see why.

www.huffingtonpost.co.uk

IFS Boss Says George Osborne Undermined Remain With 'Ludicrous' Brexit Budget Threat

'It was very clearly not a credible threat'.
www.huffingtonpost.co.uk www.huffingtonpost.co.uk
 
le bon paysan

le bon paysan

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Limousin, France
Old McDonald said:
I gave you the links to make it easy for you. I reckoned you would not have bothered to read my posts. Few people do – or anyone else’s for that matter, even if they are in the mutual fan club. They automatically just give a like.

What our son achieved academically would have been impossible in Australia. Being a definite non-sporting type he would not have got places in the more prestigious Universities. My own degree is with Charles Sturt Uni, Bathurst. I do not know where that stands, but it has to be way below St Andrews – which gave him a good Bursary along with their offer of a place. Whilst he is non-sporting he is fit and has quite a lot of Munros under his feet. He can also shovel sh!t with the best of them and has the instinct to be in the right place when moving stock. What more could anybody ask?

We did not become Australian citizens. We would never give up our British nationality. The cost of living is far too high in Australia for anyone on our level of income. We definitely could not afford to live there now. When I was there being an employee made it probably one of the best places in the world. It possibly still is, but I do not know.

The year before we left we had an idea he needed to be educated back home and we took a few weeks to check out the UK for schools. We decided Fortrose on the Black Isle appeared to have the best reputation amongst those living local to the schools – admittedly we only checked a smallish number north of The Wall in places we considered desirable to live. When we returned to Australia our son was given a one month’s visitor’s visa, despite the fact he was born there and we had his birth certificate with us. We made no progress with having that fixed, his visa expired of course, and it hastened our decision to leave by a few months.
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Why did you not get him an Australian passport as a baby?
He could have had dual nationality , yes?
 
le bon paysan

le bon paysan

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Aspiring Peasants said:
Of course, you're bound to know more than qualified economists even when the one who's article I quoted was a remain supporter 🤣 🤣
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Did you read the article? And when it was written? The Economist was right when he wrote it because Cameron resigned, May became PM and Hammond was made Chancellor.
Osbourne was right in what would and did happen but his timescale was wrong because of the rolling ball started with the resignation of Cameron.
 
Aspiring Peasants

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le bon paysan said:
Did you read the article? And when it was written? The Economist was right when he wrote it because Cameron resigned, May became PM and Hammond was made Chancellor.
Osbourne was right in what would and did happen but his timescale was wrong because of the rolling ball started with the resignation of Cameron.
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When it was written is most relevant because it was at the time Osborne made these statements, rather than a revisionist version. The comments were just part of project fear, which undermined the credibility of other things the Treasury and remain campaign were saying. Treating people like fools was a big reason as to why remain lost. In the words of Jean-Claude Juncker
"when it gets serious you have to lie"
 

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