Brexit is destroying Britain

[yoki]

For the millionth time on this thread.
Paradox of tolerance.

I know, but people like me will always insist that the intolerant like yourself should be allowed to have their say.

You should be grateful.

 

[merino]

I know, but people like me will always insist that the intolerant like yourself should be allowed to have their say.

You should be grateful.

You should Google paradox of tolerance.

 

[yoki]

You should Google paradox of tolerance.

I'm well familiar with it.

Generally used by the intolerant as an excuse for their intolerance.

As being demonstrated so admirably now by your good self.

 

[its yourself]

I'm well familiar with it.

Generally used by the intolerant as an excuse for their intolerance.

As being demonstrated so admirably now by your good self.

You are the ones wanting to ban human rights.

 

[its yourself]

 

[merino]

I'm well familiar with it.

Generally used by the intolerant as an excuse for their intolerance.

As being demonstrated so admirably now by your good self.

Intolerance of who?

 

[essex man]

Without convergence meaning the UK will let in disease form anywhere.

Oh dear, you simply don't understand

 

[its yourself]

Oh dear, you simply don't understand

If the UK doesn't/won't control it's borders who do you expect to do it for you?

 

[Aspiring Peasants]

After 22,818 posts, the score remains deadlocked at nil nil.

Not at all, Brexit has stopped us being dragged into a Federal state of Europe, job done

We are now not part of this

Supremacy of EU Law and increasing EU QMV means the EU can actually pass laws for EU States even if EU States are against those laws. EU States are therefore not truly independent sovereign countries.

The EU is a political project of Pan-European Nationalism, with a founding principle of ever-closer union.

The EU already has its own Parliament, Presidents, Foreign Minister, Ambassadors with full diplomatic immunity, its own Courts, Tax Laws, Central Bank, Single Currency, Single Market, Free Movement, Flag, Anthem, Common Citizenship, etc. The EU already controls agriculture, fisheries, immigration, tax law, currency, trade policy, etc. The EU can even veto national budgets.

The creation of a United States of Europe isn't some theoretical future possibility. It's being built now.

The EUs Executive Power has total power of legislative initiative and yet faces absolutely no democratic public elections whatsoever. European voters can't vote for it. European voters can't vote to remove it. The European Parliament itself can't remove it with anything less than a two thirds majority. So you can actually have a basic majority of the electedpoliticians wanting to remove the unelected politicians, and they can't. The EU is not a democracy.

This sell out of your country might not bother you, but then Ireland is historically not used to having it’s own sovereignty for very long periods.

 

[le bon paysan]

Yes, poor Europeans losing out on exports.
Free trade without convergence would have helped here, but they didn't want that....rightly scared of uk competition

The UK voted to implement Trade Barriers. The UK was warned that becoming a Third Country would have consequences. The UK imports far more from the EU than it exports to the EU, the screw will tighten at the end of this month and several more turns at the end of October. The EU will supply the internal market before exports. Where do you think the Fruit and Veg will come from?

 

[yoki]

Intolerance of who?

The barbed comments at those who hold views at variance with your own.

*edit* - it is however pleasing to see, than unlike yourself, democratically elected leaders across all of Europe have considered that the mayor of Brussels drastically over-stepped the mark yesterday and his behaviour entirely unacceptable.

Nice to see that our political masters, for all their faults, possess a much greater degree of tolerance than some who would shut down everything at variance with their own opinions.

 

[nivilla1982]

The UK voted to implement Trade Barriers. The UK was warned that becoming a Third Country would have consequences. The UK imports far more from the EU than it exports to the EU, the screw will tighten at the end of this month and several more turns at the end of October. The EU will supply the internal market before exports. Where do you think the Fruit and Veg will come from?

Presumably the rest of the world.

 

[its yourself]

Not at all, Brexit has stopped us being dragged into a Federal state of Europe, job done

We are now not part of this

Supremacy of EU Law and increasing EU QMV means the EU can actually pass laws for EU States even if EU States are against those laws. EU States are therefore not truly independent sovereign countries.

The EU is a political project of Pan-European Nationalism, with a founding principle of ever-closer union.

The EU already has its own Parliament, Presidents, Foreign Minister, Ambassadors with full diplomatic immunity, its own Courts, Tax Laws, Central Bank, Single Currency, Single Market, Free Movement, Flag, Anthem, Common Citizenship, etc. The EU already controls agriculture, fisheries, immigration, tax law, currency, trade policy, etc. The EU can even veto national budgets.

The creation of a United States of Europe isn't some theoretical future possibility. It's being built now.

The EUs Executive Power has total power of legislative initiative and yet faces absolutely no democratic public elections whatsoever. European voters can't vote for it. European voters can't vote to remove it. The European Parliament itself can't remove it with anything less than a two thirds majority. So you can actually have a basic majority of the electedpoliticians wanting to remove the unelected politicians, and they can't. The EU is not a democracy.

This sell out of your country might not bother you, but then Ireland is historically not used to having it’s own sovereignty for very long periods.

Is this Federal State in the room with you now?

 

[its yourself]

Presumably the rest of the world.

Yes. Paraguay is famous for its Fresh veg coming into the UK by truck.

 

[its yourself]

The barbed comments at those who hold views at variance with your own.

*edit* - it is however pleasing to see, than unlike yourself, democratically elected leaders across all of Europe have considered that the mayor of Brussels drastically over-stepped the mark yesterday and his behaviour entirely unacceptable.

Nice to see that our political masters, for all their faults, possess a much greater degree of tolerance than some who would shut down everything at variance with their own opinions.

Have you asked Braverman or Patel about that?

 

[yin ewe]

The UK voted to implement Trade Barriers. The UK was warned that becoming a Third Country would have consequences. The UK imports far more from the EU than it exports to the EU, the screw will tighten at the end of this month and several more turns at the end of October. The EU will supply the internal market before exports. Where do you think the Fruit and Veg will come from?

Not the blueberries and tomatoes again.

 

[Ashtree]

Presumably the rest of the world.

Faro Islands.

 

[essex man]

The UK voted to implement Trade Barriers. The UK was warned that becoming a Third Country would have consequences. The UK imports far more from the EU than it exports to the EU, the screw will tighten at the end of this month and several more turns at the end of October. The EU will supply the internal market before exports. Where do you think the Fruit and Veg will come from?

Oh dear, do you think it advantageous to europe if they have barriers to exporting to uk?
Do you actually understand economics at all?

 

[le bon paysan]

Oh dear, do you think it advantageous to europe if they have barriers to exporting to uk?
Do you actually understand economics at all?

You clearly don't.

 

[le bon paysan]

Stuart Rose does

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1780678436823953412