Brexit , the impossible dream .

arcobob

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From
http://blogs.lse.ac.uk/europpblog/2...h-europe-euroscepticism-figurehead-iain-begg/

Yet there is considerable irony in the fact that the European Union of today has been substantially shaped by Mrs Thatcher’s policies. It is, first, easily forgotten that she was a minister in the government that took the UK into Europe in 1973, and that she subsequently campaigned on the ‘yes’ side in the referendum held in 1975 to validate UK membership of the then European Economic Community.

The Thatcher government was, moreover, one of the leading supporters of the single European market that was progressively put in place from the mid-1980s. Indeed, the European Commissioner who led the programme to complete the internal market, Lord Cockfield, was a Thatcher appointee who clearly shared her views on the importance of market principles. It could be that one of her most enduring legacies is the unwavering support for the single market as the cornerstone of European integration, despite the turmoil of recent years, and the wave of market-orientated reforms across the continent.
The irony is that you mention the European Economic community and the European single Market but have forgotten all the twisting treaties that have been dished up since she went. Herein lies the problem, the creeping paralysis that is modern EU federalist policy, stealth but not very subtle imperialism.
 

Ashtree

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Perhaps Britain’s greatest success in attracting foreign direct investment ( quite apart from dirty Russian money buying up London and Chelski), was from Japan. English being the language of international business (the Japanese don’t do French or German, do they?) helped along with a significant domestic market and most important of all frictionless access to the huge EU market. The Japanese being the true pioneers of JIT (just in time) supply chains, Britain made such perfect business sense for them.
It’s no secret that they were the ones who made their discomfort with Brexit most known to Mrs. May early in her premiership.

Not surprising then that the long thinking Japanese have studied what the only other English speaking country in the EU has to offer.

The land of the rising sun looks set to invest in Britain’s nearest neighbour whilst the economic sun sets on Britain itself.

Check this out on Agriland - LacPatrick: Multi-billion dollar corporation eyeing up Irish processor https://www.agriland.ie/farming-new...dollar-corporation-eyeing-up-irish-processor/
 

baabaa

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Location
co Antrim
0h what a tangled web we weave .
ashy conveniently forgets to mention that aprox half of lacpatricks processing facilities are in the north of ireland,
and something like 80% of its milk pool is in the north or brexit land:D
if the jap outfit bids it will actually be a jap vote of confidence in brexit:ROFLMAO:
 

Ashtree

Member
0h what a tangled web we weave .
ashy conveniently forgets to mention that aprox half of lacpatricks processing facilities are in the north of ireland,
and something like 80% of its milk pool is in the north or brexit land:D
if the jap outfit bids it will actually be a jap vote of confidence in brexit:ROFLMAO:

Tut, tut, ...... when it comes to dairy my laddie boy, the good ‘ole southerners have wrapped up the entire island in terms of processing, marketing, and all things added value. Ain’t no good milking a leaver cow, when there nobody to make baby formula and sell it to the Chinese and now the Japs.
Keep your new passport with the harp on the cover safe. It’s gonna be the most precious thing you have. Leave it at home when you go burning all those pallets and stuff next month. Don’t wanna get it burned now do you!!:smug:
 
All our co-ops are all but gone in oz - this is the standard procedure.

The baby boomer generation say they need to get there value from co -op and cant raise capital.
Next they float on the national sharemarket ASX
Next they are in debt to the eyeballs - price plummets when they miss price targest and the ccc is on them for mis reporting.
Next all the families that have been apart of co op for generations panic sell there shares.
Next they sell to overseas bidder to avoid bankruptcy so they can still get something for there shares
Next the co-op is owned by overseas and existing owners paid out.

And thats how you end up selling to a multinational.

Sunrice is about to do the same here - story is always the same.

Ant....
 
All our co-ops are all but gone in oz - this is the standard procedure.

The baby boomer generation say they need to get there value from co -op and cant raise capital.
Next they float on the national sharemarket ASX
Next they are in debt to the eyeballs - price plummets when they miss price targest and the ccc is on them for mis reporting.
Next all the families that have been apart of co op for generations panic sell there shares.
Next they sell to overseas bidder to avoid bankruptcy so they can still get something for there shares
Next the co-op is owned by overseas and existing owners paid out.

And thats how you end up selling to a multinational.

Sunrice is about to do the same here - story is always the same.

Ant....


Same thing has happened many, many times with failed UK retail companies.

BHS was the worst .. pensions stolen and given as a dividend to "Lord Green's" wife £1 Billion tax free .. his daughter is now famous for shagging a pretty boy convict and now has a baby.

BHS is dead though.
 
we only have a couple left, its always the same spoeech when they annouce what they want to do and sell it to shareholders for a vote...always the same. The outcome is always the same...CEO and directors get out rich, everyone else poor.

A recenty dairy co-op - which was a thriving buisness, biggest dairy company / co op in Australia...floated at 500 odd million, 3 years later worth 180, the CEO made 10 mil in 3 years, he resigned, the remaining directors sold it to canada company before it went bust...

I learnt many years ago from so people at the high end of town, the mission is to make other peoples money your money...so the CEO broke the company but in his eyes he won, 10 mil was now his.

Ant....
 
we only have a couple left, its always the same spoeech when they annouce what they want to do and sell it to shareholders for a vote...always the same. The outcome is always the same...CEO and directors get out rich, everyone else poor.

A recenty dairy co-op - which was a thriving buisness, biggest dairy company / co op in Australia...floated at 500 odd million, 3 years later worth 180, the CEO made 10 mil in 3 years, he resigned, the remaining directors sold it to canada company before it went bust...

I learnt many years ago from so people at the high end of town, the mission is to make other peoples money your money...so the CEO broke the company but in his eyes he won, 10 mil was now his.

Ant....


The female PR of a Rover CEO ran away from someone I knew in passing. Rover was one of the old UK car companies taken over by a group of financiers. They made tens of million each whilst the company was driven into the ground.
 

Ashtree

Member
The female PR of a Rover CEO ran away from someone I knew in passing. Rover was one of the old UK car companies taken over by a group of financiers. They made tens of million each whilst the company was driven into the ground.

Didn’t BMW take over Rover in the first instance. Couldn’t make a success of it. It was a financial black hole, suffering the old failings of the British car industry. Unreliable money pit cars for people spending their hard earned cash. BMW sold it off again, as they discovered the British population simply didn’t want British built Rover cars anymore.
 
The female PR of a Rover CEO ran away from someone I knew in passing. Rover was one of the old UK car companies taken over by a group of financiers. They made tens of million each whilst the company was driven into the ground.

It was fudged. They made crap product. Even Ford are being smashed up these days, you have the Japanese and Koreans doing the value end of the market and most people are buying German anyway.
 

RobFZS

Member
It was fudged. They made crap product. Even Ford are being smashed up these days, you have the Japanese and Koreans doing the value end of the market and most people are buying German anyway.
you get what you pay for with cars really, when you can get a brand spanking new bmw for bugger all money each month and have the after service, sh!t heaps like Ford stand no chance, just look at the values after 7/8/ 9 years, Fords are on the floor and Bmw's etc hold them well
 
When bmw is protected inside the eu...they make money...so research and make better cars..snowball.

Bmw always made good stuff however

What markets do they make bulj dollars on and which ones are they selling for stuff all?

The benefit is volume and that drives down component costs.. so its smart business.

Ant...
 

Ashtree

Member
When bmw is protected inside the eu...they make money...so research and make better cars..snowball.

Bmw always made good stuff however

What markets do they make bulj dollars on and which ones are they selling for stuff all?

The benefit is volume and that drives down component costs.. so its smart business.

Ant...

BMW's biggest manufacturing plane in the world is IN USA.
BMW is America's BIGGEST CAR EXPORTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

https://www.extremetech.com/extreme...bmw-er-building-almost-50000-cars-us-sells-us
 

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