Brian May TB experiment.

[jondear]

Looks like it's not really working and now they want more funding.!

Gatcombe bovine TB project to continue despite setback - Farmers Weekly

Gatcombe Farm near Seaton in Devon, run by Robert Reed and his family, is involved in a long-term project with experienced vet Dick Sibley, seeking to

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[Henarar]

Have I read it right? that they seem to be blaming mothers milk for the cows getting TB later in life yet ignoring the fact that heifers graze outside where there are infected badgers but they don't get TB in heifers so they say can't be the badgers but they got TB from their mothers milk.
makes no sense ?

 

[ollie989898]

Wife was talking about this yesterday. Basically, their cows have come TB positive again and the trial is yet to produce real results to indicate anything.

 

[Dave6170]

How could anyone work with that frizzy haired twit!?

 

[Henarar]

@matthew
what do you make of it ?

 

[Sid]

Wasn't just a small breakdown but a big one!
15% as reactors and IRs

Just because the cows were housed doesn't mean the infection couldn't come in with the feed.
I'll bet they grow maize, which the stripeys love, and then mix it all up in a wagon to make sure its distributed evenly across the whole herd.

We had been tb free for a year and just had 1% as IR and reactors after gamma last year and no on movements in 18 months.

 

[Muddyroads]

Wasn't just a small breakdown but a big one!
15% as reactors and IRs

Just because the cows were housed doesn't mean the infection couldn't come in with the feed.
I'll bet they grow maize, which the stripeys love, and then mix it all up in a wagon to make sure its distributed evenly across the whole herd.

We had been tb free for a year and just had 1% as IR and reactors after gamma last year and no on movements in 18 months.

Did gamma take many?

 

[Farmer Fin]

They were using a different type of test. The herd went clear then AHPA stopped them using their test. They then had another breakdown and are claiming back to square one because they stopped their testing in the interim period. My take on it is that their testing was successful but they still haven’t stopped them being re infected.

 

[Henarar]

Wasn't just a small breakdown but a big one!
15% as reactors and IRs

Just because the cows were housed doesn't mean the infection couldn't come in with the feed.
I'll bet they grow maize, which the stripeys love, and then mix it all up in a wagon to make sure its distributed evenly across the whole herd.

We had been tb free for a year and just had 1% as IR and reactors after gamma last year and no on movements in 18 months.

They used to grow lots of maize so probably still do
I spread a lot of lime there years ago

 

[jondear]

They used to grow lots of maize so probably still do
I spread a lot of lime there years ago

Of course they do .Show me a herd that doesn't that keeps cows indoors!

 

[AftonShepherd]

Am I the only one that was hoping from the title they were making him drink badgers pee regularly to see what happened?

Shame because he's a damn fine guitarist!

 

[Muddyroads]

I’ve sprayed maize and wrapped bales there before. There’s no way they can guarantee either crop hasn’t been p1ssed on by badgers, especially the grass.

 

[C.J]

Am I the only one that was hoping from the title they were making him drink badgers pee regularly to see what happened?

Shame because he's a damn fine guitarist!

I have witnessed a badger squatting every 10 feet or so to mark a run.It was in a reseed and appeared to be following the outside tramline ,from the previous wheat crop.It had just come out of a maize field and there were latrines in the gateway.

 

[som farmer]

How could anyone work with that frizzy haired twit!?

if he paid enough, i could, whether it would be a 'compliant job', i wouldn't like to say !!!

 

[Sid]

Did gamma take many?

Gamma runs at around 8% of herds go positive.
We had 4% and 2% on skin. 1% were positive on both.
1.5% were inconclusive.

It was bearable, but I had bought in when clear as I had an inclination we would go down again and lose some. I didn't want to restock when down .
Vet had the nerve to say I was taking a risk buying in when clear. I told them I wouldn't have if they didn't pay 50% on brought in stock during restrictions so its their rules that increased our livestock movements.

 

[jondear]

if he paid enough, i could, whether it would be a 'compliant job', i wouldn't like to say !!!

You have got to wonder how much coin he's personally putting into it to to make it worth their while.

 

[Sid]

You have got to wonder how much coin he's personally putting into it to to make it worth their while.

Well Dick has put in £20k he says so I would imagine Brian has done similar, 40 grand per farm makes the control of wildlife look cheap!

Dick Sibley lost all credibility IMHO when he said publically no animal has ever died from GM crops. When I asked him for his proof he hadn't got one bit.

 

[som farmer]

You have got to wonder how much coin he's personally putting into it to to make it worth their while.

probably a tax avoidance job !!!

 

[matthew]

@matthew
what do you make of it ?

Not printable.
Dick Sibley is a disgrace to the veterinary profession. A classic political vet.

Breakdowns on this farm seem to occur after a winter clear. Which is classic from past exoerience. If you can keep badgers out of farm buildings and offer clean feed, then test / slaughter works, But turned out onto infected grazings soon catches up with the herd.
From memory, the youngstock on this farm are grazed? Until they calve?

Breakdowns in zero grazed housed herds have been traced back to fodder beet, maize or even grass, heavily contaminated and shoved through a diet mixer. Every little helps.

If I wanted a guitar tuning, I wouldn’t ask a vet. Nuff sed.

 

[Sid]

Dick Sibley is a disgrace to the veterinary profession. A classic political vet

He told a TFF member to spray his cubicle house with a vacuum tanker full of disinfectant to get rid of tb. £6000 of disinfectant!
Soon spend his 20k like that!