British Farmers to cut production by half ?

[Jackov Altraids]

Proposed headline:

“In light of the massive rise in the cost of farm inputs, the confusion surrounding the phasing out of BPS and the Environment agency persecuting farmers with its wrong interpretation of legislation, the NFU have taken the unprecedented step of advising all farmers to cut output.”


Of course the spineless gits haven't actually said this.

But wouldn't it be rather effective if they did?

 

[DrDunc]

I'll just call the abattoir and book in my home bred cows due to calf in the next month or two

There that's my production cut

I'll not bother feeding the lambing ewes then sell what doesn't die

There that's the output from the other side of my business cut




"Joking" aside, the feed fuel and fertiliser prices are going to end an awful lot of livestock producers. We can't just leave the seed in the bag until prices improve

 

[delilah]

"Joking" aside, the feed fuel and fertiliser prices are going to end an awful lot of livestock producers. We can't just leave the seed in the bag until prices improve

Such an important point. Livestock farmers can't just 'shut the gate' in the same way as can an arable producer.
It needs adding to the list of why the bulk of ELMS money needs to go to the livestock sector.
@Janet Hughes Defra

(and, yes, I know those with rent to pay can't just 'shut the gate'. But all other things being equal, it is the livestock farmer who is more exposed to having to take the long view and somehow ride out times of uncertainty) .

 

[Bald Rick]

In light of the massive rise in the cost of farm inputs, the confusion surrounding the phasing out of BPS and the Environment agency persecuting farmers with its wrong interpretation of legislation, the NFU have taken the unprecedented step of advising all farmers to cut output.




Of course the spineless gits haven't actually said this.

But wouldn't it be rather effective if they did?

They are hosting a webinar at 4pm on March 16th to discuss the impacts on UK farming & food supply. Need to register of course


TBH, they need to be talking to Government not to the poor sods who are having to pay the bills, wondering if the diesel or fert will turn up in time, stressing about actually speaking to a person at the bank who understands the pressures and adjusts the OD accordingly and so on.

One could almost say the reaction by the union is all fart, no sh!t but I am sure that they are bothering DEFRA/WG on an hourly basis ....

 

[Treg]

It's all down to the NFU s new 100k / yr political strategist -
Veganism, don't say anything & in a year or to it will all go away
Global shortage of inputs leading to food shortages , don't say anything it come write eventually
Their the most chilled out person in the NFU , lays back on their sofa in their office doing the times crossword.

 

[fairydarmer]

They are hosting a webinar at 4pm on March 16th to discuss the impacts on UK farming & food supply. Need to register of course


TBH, they need to be talking to Government not to the poor sods who are having to pay the bills, wondering if the diesel or fert will turn up in time, stressing about actually speaking to a person at the bank who understands the pressures and adjusts the OD accordingly and so on.

One could almost say the reaction by the union is all fart, no sh!t but I am sure that they are bothering DEFRA/WG on an hourly basis ....

Do you know where I could find the link to register?
I watched part of their conference this year and on each discussion, they told us exactly what we all knew. They didn’t bring anything new to the table at all.
‘Farmers need better prices to sustain” Right… thanks for letting us know that. Enjoy the dinner sponsored by all the big wigs. It did wind me up

 

[Bald Rick]

Do you know where I could find the link to register?
I watched part of their conference this year and on each discussion, they told us exactly what we all knew. They didn’t bring anything new to the table at all.
‘Farmers need better prices to sustain” Right… thanks for letting us know that. Enjoy the dinner sponsored by all the big wigs. It did wind me up

Link sends you to NFU online membership login
Guess there will be something to click on when you're in

 

[Chickcatcher]

Bald Rick wrote in post 4 above.
I presume he is talking about the "Ukraine Crisis Virtual Event" on the 16th

TBH, they need to be talking to Government not to the poor sods who are having to pay the bills, wondering if the diesel or fert will turn up in time, stressing about actually speaking to a person at the bank who understands the pressures and adjusts the OD accordingly and so on.

There was a contingency of NFU member representatives in London doing that yesterday 9th. Perhaps they were including all the anti membership as well.
I wait to hear what others have done have they even contacted there local MP, as that can be a useful first step.

 

[Kevtherev]

There will be food shortages soon
Maybe not immediately but when the Ukrainian sowing and harvest is delayed/destroyed by the trouble over there it will leave a massive void in the staple food products such as wheat sunflower and other grains they produce.
Very silly of the NFU to lean towards that sort of thinking.
Shouldn’t they be promoting home grown locally produced low carbon food?

 

[Nick Adams]

Who do you think got the item on BBC ten o'clock news last night??

 

[Clive]

In light of the massive rise in the cost of farm inputs, the confusion surrounding the phasing out of BPS and the Environment agency persecuting farmers with its wrong interpretation of legislation, the NFU have taken the unprecedented step of advising all farmers to cut output.




Of course the spineless gits haven't actually said this.

But wouldn't it be rather effective if they did?

if N and fuel price remain where they are the NFU wont need to announce it ........... it will happen anyway IMO

 

[Clive]

Who do you think got the item on BBC ten o'clock news last night??

BBC researchers of course

 

[Clive]

Who do you think got the item on BBC ten o'clock news last night??

BTW - of all the many people who I asked to retweet the Ukraine "send a tonne of wheat" money raise ALL did so, even Jeremy Clarkson and Chris Packham !! ........... neither Minette or NFU Tweets did however !

they only care about themselves clearly

 

[Jackov Altraids]

There will be food shortages soon
Maybe not immediately but when the Ukrainian sowing and harvest is delayed/destroyed by the trouble over there it will leave a massive void in the staple food products such as wheat sunflower and other grains they produce.
Very silly of the NFU to lean towards that sort of thinking.
Shouldn’t they be promoting home grown locally produced low carbon food?

There is a good business reason for the NFU to 'advise' cutting production in light of present circumstances.
The even better reason for doing so would be the effect it would have on the government.
We have been all been shouting at them about the importance of home food production and have been completely ignored with how they have created trade agreements, new transportation regulations, export bans, removal of BPS, introduction of ELMS,end of badger culls etc etc etc......

There will never be a better time to call their bluff.

They will want more food.
They will need more food.
Lets not even consider it unless they start addressing some of the things they created to stop us.

They were perfectly happy for at least a third of British farmers to lose their business at the hands of the free market. Let the free market do its thing now.
I honestly believe that most farmers will be much better off, financially, mentally and physically, if they significantly reduce their output this year.

 

[Kevtherev]

There is a good business reason for the NFU to 'advise' cutting production in light of present circumstances.
The even better reason for doing so would be the effect it would have on the government.
We have been all been shouting at them about the importance of home food production and have been completely ignored with how they have created trade agreements, new transportation regulations, export bans, removal of BPS, introduction of ELMS,end of badger culls etc etc etc......

There will never be a better time to call their bluff.

They will want more food.
They will need more food.
Lets not even consider it unless they start addressing some of the things they created to stop us.

They were perfectly happy for at least a third of British farmers to lose their business at the hands of the free market. Let the free market do its thing now.
I honestly believe that most farmers will be much better off, financially, mentally and physically, if they significantly reduce their output this year.

You could well be right the financial pressure on some for inputs is vast.
Less is sometimes more

 

[Bury the Trash]

honestly believe that most farmers will be much better off, financially, mentally and physically, if they significantly reduce their output this year.

and if that helps them survive then yes take that stance, (it will happen naturally anyway for some ) and do it discretly/naturally but otherwise for any public body nfu or not to advise/ promote cutting production announced publiclly at this time would be a huge totally bad pr exercise not helping anyone

 

[Jackov Altraids]

and if that helps them survive then yes take that stance, and do it discretly/naturally but otherwise for any body nfu or not to advise/ promote cutting production announced publiclly at this time would be a huge totally bad pr exercise not helping anyone

Au contraire..
It would be a coup.
It would force all the very people who have maligned agriculture to argue the case for producing.
That discussion will help everyone.

 

[Yale]

Perhaps as a minimum government could offer special inputs ‘bounce back loans’,interest free just to tide UK farmers through the cash flow until harvest when proper decisions can be made?

 

[Jackov Altraids]

Perhaps as a minimum government could offer special inputs ‘bounce back loans’,interest free just to tide UK farmers through the cash flow until harvest when proper decisions can be made?

Isn't that just financially 'handing you the rope'?

It would be better to be offered a safety net rather than a longer ladder.

 

[Jsmith2211]

Bald Rick wrote in post 4 above.
I presume he is talking about the "Ukraine Crisis Virtual Event" on the 16th

TBH, they need to be talking to Government not to the poor sods who are having to pay the bills, wondering if the diesel or fert will turn up in time, stressing about actually speaking to a person at the bank who understands the pressures and adjusts the OD accordingly and so on.

There was a contingency of NFU member representatives in London doing that yesterday 9th. Perhaps they were including all the anti membership as well.
I wait to hear what others have done have they even contacted there local MP, as that can be a useful first step.

contact my local MP? I did that over a month ago regarding ELMS and havent heard a single thing. (Local MP being rebecca pow, who has consistantly voted with the govornment on everything, directly contradicting her election promisses.