Pieces_of_Eight
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Unless they plan to make a 'British' product by refining imported cane molasses....
British Sugars Penultimate Sugar Campaign. 2021/22
- Thread starter Daniel
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Unless they plan to make a 'British' product by refining imported cane molasses....
Hindsight
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- Location
- Lincolnshire
Well Tate and Lyle seem quite happy putting a Union Jack onto their bags.
ollie989898
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It will be a shame all round if the beet thing finishes, it must employ a lot of people, hauliers, contractors and the like. But this has been going on 20 years at least.
Last ever beet left here this morning, used to be the cornerstone of the rotation, other crops fitted in around it. The job has changed so much over the years, just got to be sheer misery.
Not sure BS really care, just think of the development potential of the Bury factory site.
Not sure BS really care, just think of the development potential of the Bury factory site.
Too many growers are still waiting for seed more than 3 weeks since the neonic decision was taken.
- Location
- Lincolnshire
Growing it for one more as I want to get all the life out of my harvester rod links before I gas axe it. This will be the last year. If I carry on it would have to be contractors but I’ve seem enough of that.
They can’t whistle up the seed out of thin air. We were told this would happen.
The whole thing is a farce, I am all in favour of only using neonics only if absolutely necessary but unless the beet gets drilled very soon it will still be at risk when the aphids are predicted to start to fly. Fieldsman not allowed to find out when seed will be delivered and growers not allowed to go and collect seed. I don't think BS realise that there profits will be zero if there is no beet grown here.
I have to stand up for them it clearly said end of March whatever the outcome. That’s why growers who prioritised early drilling could order untreated seed.
- Location
- Lincolnshire
We had the option to cancel the neonics and get the seed earlier when it was more or less a dead cert we wouldn’t be getting the neonics anyway. Not really sure why that was growers choice. They should have just sent the lot out when it is was .95% certain the threshold wouldn’t be triggered. It’s not a very good advert for IPM working in practice. Nice idea but logistical nightmare for input suppliers.
- Location
- Lincolnshire
Personally I think it would do BS some good to have a look at things like spare parts bills and farmers running costs for a beet enterprise. I have had 20 years searching scrap heaps for spare wearing parts. A full set of new sprockets and rod links for my small harvester is the best part of £2k so unaffordable given my gross output is £10K and the wearing parts last me about 4 years. It simply no longer adds up.
SilliamWhale
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If it doesn't pay to grow it, whats the problem?
- Location
- Lincolnshire
I’m old enough to remember beet at over £30 per ton maybe 40 years ago. Input costs were much lower. Input costs rise, beet price declines. Doesn’t take a genius to work it out.
- Location
- Lincolnshire
No problem, we won’t grow it. We have been hanging on for a long time hoping for an uplift but doesn’t look like it’s coming.
It’s a real shame because we have built knowledge and infrastructure and we have fine tuned systems over 67 years.
- Location
- Suffolk
I don't think we'll bother with weed beet this year, or next. Must have made my mind up already.
Hindsight
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- Location
- Lincolnshire
Taken from Friends of the Earth website posted earlier today
Documents revealed by Freedom of Information rules show that when the government gave temporary approval to lift the ban on bee-harming chemicals it went against the recommendation of its own advisors.
Sandra Bell25 Mar 2021
policy.friendsoftheearth.uk
Documents revealed by Freedom of Information rules show that when the government gave temporary approval to lift the ban on bee-harming chemicals it went against the recommendation of its own advisors.
Sandra Bell25 Mar 2021
Why the government is wrong to ever allow banned neonics on our fields | Policy and insight
Documents revealed by Freedom of Information rules show that when the government gave temporary approval to lift the ban on bee-harming chemicals it went against the recommendation of its own advisors.
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- Lincolnshire
Advisors advise. Ministers decide.Taken from Friends of the Earth website posted earlier today
Documents revealed by Freedom of Information rules show that when the government gave temporary approval to lift the ban on bee-harming chemicals it went against the recommendation of its own advisors.
Sandra Bell25 Mar 2021
Why the government is wrong to ever allow banned neonics on our fields | Policy and insight
Documents revealed by Freedom of Information rules show that when the government gave temporary approval to lift the ban on bee-harming chemicals it went against the recommendation of its own advisors.
Hindsight
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- Location
- Lincolnshire
The Judicial review scheduled for later in the year will be interesting. What odds you think of a Neonic emergency approval for 2022?
- Location
- the brecks norfolk
I really hope that no one signs a new 3 year deal when it's offered in late summer for a paltry £1.50 t. Sign a 1 year deal if you intend to grow but a 3 year contract will just undermine us all and play right into the hands of BS. Personally I think when the contract offer comes out this year the NFUS should try to get everyone to not sign it, I bet before the start of the campaign BS would be offering a revised offer but we need everyone to all be singing from the same hymn sheet and we need the NFUS to be leading us with a firm stance.