Broadcast and harrow help...
- Thread starter Wigeon
- Start date
Negatives ...
1. The extra cost of owning and running the drill.
2.Headlands are the worst thing for the combi when lumbering around .
3, a drill part itself is a fudge which ever way you look at it it's just one more ' cultivation' that's not needed.
4. Setting up and calibrating accurately takes time and can be a pita, job seed could be spread in the time taken to get going...
Pro.
1. Spreader far wider bout widths so not many extra wheel Mark's , it's on the farm anyway for other job, it doesn't need such a heavy tractor .
2. Better ground cover less chance of soil erosion , can work across slopes better without the drill.
3. Less weed problem as no bare gaps.
4. The ground gets chance to air off in certain conditions between passes,
And besides how many use it as just a true one pass ?
1. The extra cost of owning and running the drill.
2.Headlands are the worst thing for the combi when lumbering around .
3, a drill part itself is a fudge which ever way you look at it it's just one more ' cultivation' that's not needed.
4. Setting up and calibrating accurately takes time and can be a pita, job seed could be spread in the time taken to get going...
Pro.
1. Spreader far wider bout widths so not many extra wheel Mark's , it's on the farm anyway for other job, it doesn't need such a heavy tractor .
2. Better ground cover less chance of soil erosion , can work across slopes better without the drill.
3. Less weed problem as no bare gaps.
4. The ground gets chance to air off in certain conditions between passes,
And besides how many use it as just a true one pass ?
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- Location
- Cambs Essex
The output is crazy as well
- Location
- Bury St Edmunds
The 120 ha we did 2 or 3 weeks ago looks like some of the best wheat on the farm. All done in 1.5 days ( in daylight). In other news I have 3 expensive drills that sow seed in rows.
4course
Member
- Location
- north yorks
ive come to the view that in a wet season on our land wether drilling or broadcasting the one machine to not use wether to" harrow" in after broadcasting or under a drill is a ph
Yes if its cabby use the spring tines.
- Location
- Lincolnshire
Out of interest, what method/type of harrow did you use, to cover the seed?The 120 ha we did 2 or 3 weeks ago looks like some of the best wheat on the farm. All done in 1.5 days ( in daylight). In other news I have 3 expensive drills that sow seed in rows.
- Location
- Bury St Edmunds
Old Vaderstad NZ, unfortunately only 6 metres.
The broadcast and nz’ed wheat looks much better than drilled with vaddy.
Last season’s broadcast yielded the same as drilled.
The old vaddy will now last forever.
New regime : get good seedbed when dry, leave 6 weeks, spray off, broadcast off heap, nz, herbicide peri emergence, roll in spring.. Capital cost / repairs for as far as I can see, a few cultivator points, simple old tractor (s).
Last season’s broadcast yielded the same as drilled.
The old vaddy will now last forever.
New regime : get good seedbed when dry, leave 6 weeks, spray off, broadcast off heap, nz, herbicide peri emergence, roll in spring.. Capital cost / repairs for as far as I can see, a few cultivator points, simple old tractor (s).
Yes but they wont listen to you , a 'deranged peasant '.....
I suppose the point to labour is that instead of using as a fire brigade tactic , one could do it in good time in good conditions, .....faster
4course
Member
- Location
- north yorks
nature is a wondrous thing .wheat ears let their ripe ready to germinate seeds drop on to uncultivated land (though over a period to catch the weather), the reason we make seedbeds is to try and enhance nature or defeat its weeds and diseases,its not rocket science yet some folks insist on reinventing the wheel,Yes but they wont listen to you , a 'deranged peasant '.....
I suppose the point to labour is that instead of using as a fire brigade tactic , one could do it in good time in good conditions, .....faster
- Location
- Cambs Essex
A bit of spread and nz harrowed skyscraper, coming along.
course a big negative can be bird damage. bit of that going on here on the shallower buried seeds but will strengthen against that from now on as the second leaf comes and roots develop... but oats not looking too bad, considering its rained a lot of the time since they were sown..ph covered and the side cheeks need maintenance apart from that ....
apart from that ....
course a big negative can be bird damage. bit of that going on here on the shallower buried seeds but will strengthen against that from now on as the second leaf comes and roots develop... but oats not looking too bad, considering its rained a lot of the time since they were sown..ph covered and the side cheeks need maintenance
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We tried spinning some oats on but they kept bridging in the hopper.
What I've done with w bean s ( few years ago now) is spread them on the ( clean) stubble and just ploughed them in .
Was an accepted way if doing it in the past.
Plough not too deep though about 5, 6 or 7 inches max if you can.
I never even cultivated over after either . ( contractor used to cut them
)Obviously try to do a good ploughing job.
GeorgeK
Member
- Location
- Leicestershire
Depends on your crow situation and how many beans will be shallow enough for them to pull out? We broadcast and ploughed ours in this year. Nice soft soil for them, preferential to smeared slots full of water
What I've done with w bean s ( few years ago now) is spread them on the ( clean) stubble and just ploughed them in .
Was an accepted way if doing it in the past.
Plough not too deep though about 5, 6 or 7 inches max if you can.
I never even cultivated over after either . ( contractor used to cut them
Obviously try to do a good ploughing job.
yes I’ve done plenty like that in the past but that was in the good old days of simazine. I don’t fancy ploughing much at all now and I certainly wouldn’t be leaving it in the furrow as it’s me that combines and sprays them and I don’t have a power Harrow!
It’s right by the yard so should be able to keep an eye on the crows.
might have a go tomorrow and see what sort of job it does