Broadcasting cover crops???

Douglasmn

Member
IS autocasting cover crops off the back off the back of the combine something anyone has tried?
That one to me seems like not such a smart idea. You've got all of the seed sitting amongst all of the straw and chaff, never going to work as well. Take advantage of clean soil and two weeks extra growth by broadcasting into standing crop.
 

Louis Mc

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Location
Meath, Ireland
That one to me seems like not such a smart idea. You've got all of the seed sitting amongst all of the straw and chaff, never going to work as well. Take advantage of clean soil and two weeks extra growth by broadcasting into standing crop.

have considered this but came to conclusion you gain nothing in terms of time which is what we are really after
Yes only really a labour/small fuel saving I suppose. The other problem is you would have to wait minimum 1 week to know if it's a success or not, which leaves it late if you need to go in and drill it properly. At least by broadcasting into standing crop you should know the day you Harvest if it has been a success or not.
 

Clive

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Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield
well it certainky worked well with the stubble turnips and rape for us last year ..I believe @H.Jackson did the same with good results ..need to mix in some Ferric Sulphate pellets too .......

auto cast OSR was usually either a big success or complete fail and little in between IIRC ?

it depends very heavy on weather after establishmnet I guess so is always gamble
 
how successful would a techneat outcast (pair of boom mounted 12m spinners) be do you think ?

All we did was split a 24m tram with the ranger and spread at 12m so I'd of thought it would be fine.

If we do it again which is what we're thinking then it'll be done at 36m by the rogator.
 

Pedders

Member
Location
West Sussex
auto cast OSR was usually either a big success or complete fail and little in between IIRC ?

it depends very heavy on weather after establishmnet I guess so is always gamble
this is not autocasting, with that the seeds just get dumped into a mess of straw and chaff and everything is drying out ...this is about dropping seeds into a standing crop that gives a micro climate that is conducive to germination and growth .... you need to adjust the seed rate upwards a bit but it should be a pretty reliable method of doing it and will give you an extra three weeks or so of growth at the most important time of the year
 

Louis Mc

Member
Location
Meath, Ireland
this is not autocasting, with that the seeds just get dumped into a mess of straw and chaff and everything is drying out ...this is about dropping seeds into a standing crop that gives a micro climate that is conducive to germination and growth .... you need to adjust the seed rate upwards a bit but it should be a pretty reliable method of doing it and will give you an extra three weeks or so of growth at the most important time of the year
It would be a great way of doing it but do we run the Risk of have a mat of green at the bottom of crops if hatvest is delayed or crops get lodged?
 
used to broad cast rape in stubble found that stubble needs to be quiet tall to keep pigeons out about welly height works well .
mustard , vetch .grass ,clover . phacelia ,Radish, RadTill Radish ,turnips, rape, linseed, wheat ,quinoa ,chicory ,
in mixes in spinner I have found that mixes separate out to much =x2 passes
 
There is a you tube video (sorry cant post link) with guys using an air boom to sow red clover into standing wheat crop...they go quite early but - before heads out if i remember...the clover germinates but due to shading doesn't really take off..until wheat drops its leaves...

I want to play with this but its more for grazing after harvest...

As far as applications go i thought about using the sprayer - small hopper and fan and and air hose kit...rigged up temporarily to do the job..if it works then look at making something...just a thought...cheap...

Ant...
 

Chae1

Member
Location
Aberdeenshire
well it certainly worked well with the stubble turnips and rape for us last year ..I believe @H.Jackson did the same with good results ..need to mix in some Ferric Sulphate pellets too .......
Does some of the ferric sulphate not sit in the wheat ears and end up in wheat in shed. Farmer I worked for as student put stubble turnips and slug pellets into standing crop and you could see slug pellets in wheat sample!
 

Louis Mc

Member
Location
Meath, Ireland
We have some germination anyway
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Louis Mc

Member
Location
Meath, Ireland
So I gave it a go today. In very rough figures 3kgs coated fodder
Raddish and 3kgs mustard. Slug pelleter seemed just about able to make 21 meters but it's hard to say how accurately. Did about 4ha so enough of a trial to see what happens. Not overly confident of good results but I had to try it. Tgere will almost definitely be a cover crop of barley where the tractor drove though and it's has put us off doing much pre harvesting
 

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Louis Mc

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Location
Meath, Ireland
So it has worked well enough it seems. Slug pelleter only really Managed 12m, (I was told this in advance). Not sure what percentage is growing but with cheap seed, an increased seed rate and maybe a boom spreader on a high clearance tractor this might be something worth pursuing further
 

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