Can No-till /Regen Agric survive without glyphosate? if not we are DOOMED!! I think it can..

martian

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We're going to try the Wildfarmed technique here. Basically involves cultivating strips in an existing ley, 50cm apart and planting wheat in the strip. Then graze the lot in the spring (T0) and later mowing the ley down between the rows a couple of times. Harvest. Organic very min till, not exactly no-till.
 

som farmer

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somerset
round-up has been a staple of farming for 40/50 years, an incredible chemical, that transformed farming, but we managed before, and with great difficulty, we will manage after, we have no other option, it is outside our control, in what the powers to be, decide.
In the meantime, the younger members on here, should look up, and listen to, adge cutlers wurzel song
'thee cassn't kill couch'
 
round-up has been a staple of farming for 40/50 years, an incredible chemical, that transformed farming, but we managed before, and with great difficulty, we will manage after, we have no other option, it is outside our control, in what the powers to be, decide.
In the meantime, the younger members on here, should look up, and listen to, adge cutlers wurzel song
'thee cassn't kill couch'
Couch control pre-Roundup.

Hours and hours of cultivations raking the damned stuff into rows to be burned is my recollection in 1975/6 after the drought, then in 1977 we sprayed an area as an experiment. Never looked back...

Mr Cutler was I suspect, correct! ;)

Seem to remember a product called Eptam used in spuds, but it's a bloody long time ago!
 
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sjt01

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Mixed Farmer
Location
North Norfolk
Electricity, maybe, if the right technology comes along... I had doubts but I am starting to see it might eventually become a practical solution, maybe another 20 years or so... Its never going to be as cheap or quick as a 24m sprayer with 4L of glyphosate though.

Uses a massive amount of electrical power, as it basically cooks the stem and root.
 

spin cycle

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Location
north norfolk
What’s wrong with Glyphosate 🤷‍♂️

medias favourite 'bad chemical' :rolleyes:

Helps keep soil regenerated and functional whereas tillage knackers it

i know i was just sh!te stirring really;)....mind you i still reckon if you went to someone on the street and tried to sell the concept of chemical use versus cultivation they wouldn't be to convinced......i mean...'i'm going into regenerative agriculture...the first thing i need is a spray that kills all plant life':rolleyes:
 

som farmer

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Livestock Farmer
Location
somerset
medias favourite 'bad chemical' :rolleyes:



i know i was just sh!te stirring really;)....mind you i still reckon if you went to someone on the street and tried to sell the concept of chemical use versus cultivation they wouldn't be to convinced......i mean...'i'm going into regenerative agriculture...the first thing i need is a spray that kills all plant life':rolleyes:
it's just another tool in the box, that makes things easier.
 

MrNoo

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Arable Farmer
Location
Cirencester
Got a friend who's organic and you wouldnt believe the amount of couch there, he held a ploughing match and actually it was a delight to plough as the roots kept the soil all together so much like ploughing a grass ley.
 

Clive

Staff Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield
I think notill can survive without glyphosate but most likely only with livestock

If you move away from glyphosate you may as well go organic and take a premium

If glyphosate goes I suspect a replacement will appear pretty fast - to big a gap in the market for someone not to fill surely ? Notill or otherwise
 

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