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[fieldfarmer]

Because its what your customers want?

No they don't.

 

[Sid]

Incorrect ....it's what NFU and RT offer to the supermarkets and tell themthey need it and that they ,NFU/RT , on behalf of the supermarkets enforce it with a rod of iron !

My supermarket inspection took less than an hour because I am RT.

How long would it have taken if I wasn't RT?

 

[Sid]

No they don't.

They do, they just aren't paying a premium for it!

 

[Tom8400]

You actually have to pay the nfu? Bloody hell, no wonder we get the old stereo type of farmers always saying their hard up.

 

[Dry Rot]

How much is NFU membership @Dicky.A

Why does this question remain unanswered? Is there some deep subtle meaning that I'm missing?

Seems straight forward and a serious question to me. So far, I've noted that one poster pays £700......

 

[fieldfarmer]

They do, they just aren't paying a premium for it!

But, I sell assured grain to a local mill who turn it in to animal feed, I know several farms that buy that cake who aren't farm assured, they don't want it, and some who are farm assured don't want it they turn that cake into meat to sell to peaple who for the most haven't heard of read tractor, end customer don't want it, trading standards have a minimum standard aready in place.

 

[stroller]

My supermarket inspection took less than an hour because I am RT.

How long would it have taken if I wasn't RT?

er.. the length of time the RT inspection took, plus the " less than an hour supermarket one"?

 

[Sid]

er.. the length of time the RT inspection took, plus the " less than an hour supermarket one"?

Correct but @Hfd Cattle said the supermarkets don't want it. This one does.

 

[deleted user 436632456]

My supermarket inspection took less than an hour because I am RT.

How long would it have taken if I wasn't RT?

Even though red tractor is very flawed and needs some changes,

I do wonder are they keeping the bigger wolf from the door.

Unless there is a comparative scheme in place, sometimes people really need to be careful what they wish for.

 

[roscoe erf]

Even though red tractor is very flawed and needs some changes,

I do wonder are they keeping the bigger wolf from the door.

Unless there is a comparative scheme in place, sometimes people really need to be careful what they wish for.

yes they all wished for red tractor when it was first muted taking that little bit of gold the devil was handing out

 

[ollie989898]

Why does this question remain unanswered? Is there some deep subtle meaning that I'm missing?

Seems straight forward and a serious question to me. So far, I've noted that one poster pays £700......

I understood membership varies according to the size of your farm?

It's a nonsense, it should be a flat fee annually. I understand that members voting on issues isn't a straight wicket, either.

 

[roscoe erf]

I understood membership varies according to the size of your farm?

It's a nonsense, it should be a flat fee annually. I understand that members voting on issues isn't a straight wicket, either.

no and neither is the hierarchy and the way they all end up in high payed jobs with titles after really doing s.f.a just government's lackeys

 

[Clive]

Do you think if RT went the your buyers would just drop all requirements? My guess is buyers/processors/retailers will still want something.

Do UK mills bring in foreign feed wheat and barley?

this is the issue - they don’t have the same requirements for the imports - we are happy to supply on the same basis as they buy from overseas. ie no FARM level assurance

its being questioned if this is even legal

but the NFU support them and seem happy that uk farmers are disadvantaged in this way, the NFU created RT and still own a bog part of it , boards ate full of current and ex nfu employees and officers etc ...... join the dots

 

[ollie989898]

I know, 100%, where you are coming from. But we wont be cancelling. Various attempts at representative bodies have come and gone. Very difficult to start from scratch in an expanding industry, never mind a retracting one. The reality is, whether anyone likes it or not, that our best hope of decent representation is to get the NFU to do its job better. Which starts with members kicking off and telling their elected reps what needs to change, not just muttering on here.

Having seen the NFU in action over the years on a range of issues, I would say you have precisely 0% chance of them doing anything about your individual concerns. The only way they will wake up is for their membership to plummet. They are only interested in their own agenda and their highly paid jobs and keeping themselves in the perpetual circle-jerk or board positions. Can't you see how it's a revolving door salary train? Ah yes, you were grocery board adjuvicator, how about a job in the AHDB, now a slot here, and there etc etc etc. No wonder nothing ever gets done- it's an echo chamber furnished with personalities that share the same 'NFU: guffaw, guffaw, jolly good show' mindset. Dissenters have no voice.

 

[Clive]

I understood membership varies according to the size of your farm?

It's a nonsense, it should be a flat fee annually. I understand that members voting on issues isn't a straight wicket, either.

indeed it does change based on farm size

so who do you think are the most important members? big farm or small farm ?

of more concern is that not just farmers are members- suppliers, processors, retailers, environmental and welfare lobby groups can all be members and many are

i bet a big retail membership is expensive so imagine how important keeping them happy is vs a small hill farm ?


The above issue why one member one vote should be adopted or ALL none farmer members should be expelled immediately from what should be s FARMERS union

 

[ollie989898]

this is the issue - they don’t have the same requirements for the imports - we are happy to supply on the same basis as they buy from overseas. ie no FARM level assurance

its being questioned if this is even legal

but the NFU support them and seem happy that uk farmers are disadvantaged in this way

It is probably legal because the scheme in government eyes is deemed as 'voluntary'?

Why in the hell someone would pay money to an organisation who are actively forcing ever greater (and more meaningless) regulation on the industry 'for it's own good' knowing at the same time it hampers competitiveness I have no idea.

 

[ollie989898]

indeed it does change based on farm size

so who do you think are the most important members? big farm or small farm ?


another reason why one member one vote should be adopted

It's ridiculous. A member is a member, regardless of their farm size, which is a ridiculous measure anyway. You could own a load of land and still be totally incompetent or out of touch with the reality of the industry but would still get a seat and a voice mostly because your salmon cords match everyone else's in the room.

 

[roscoe erf]

It is probably legal because the scheme in government eyes is deemed as 'voluntary'?

Why in the hell someone would pay money to an organisation who are actively forcing ever greater (and more meaningless) regulation on the industry 'for it's own good' knowing at the same time it hampers competitiveness I have no idea.

because the big will get bigger by squeezing out the small

 

[Dry Rot]

I understood membership varies according to the size of your farm?

It's a nonsense, it should be a flat fee annually. I understand that members voting on issues isn't a straight wicket, either.

Well, I resigned after being told they wouldn't help me when losing lambs to the local government owned land because I'm "not a proper farmer". Then, when the NFU and NFU Mutual were the same thing, refused to quote me for insurance for the same reason! Glad they made up my mind for me as they are not something I would want to support!

 

[ollie989898]

Well, I resigned after being told they wouldn't help me when losing lambs to the local government owned land because I'm "not a proper farmer". Then, when the NFU and NFU Mutual were the same thing, refused to quote me for insurance for he same reason! Glad they made up my mind for me as they are not something I would want to support!

WTF? You can't be serious?

Bit confused as to what the NFU is for if it won't support a member over what could possibly be dealt with very readily?