And of the NFU and it's support for RT and some of the other strange moves?
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And of the NFU and it's support for RT and some of the other strange moves?
Tarw Coch
Member
- Location
- Bottom of Wats Dyke
I don’t read and remember them in detail, just that I see letters critical of RT on a semi regular basis
- Location
- Herefordshire
I think the criticism of NFU/RT is more widespread that you would imagine.Ive spoken to several people,recently,who think the same and have never heard of TFF.I very also spoken to many members of the public and I guess only about one quarter had ever heard of RT.
- Location
- Romney Marsh
If the farming press were not taking money from RT and NFU for advertising, I am sure they would print more letters and stories about the failures of FA .
It's called hush money
- Location
- Linconshire
No different to the Russian news agency
Not got that far yet, got a seconder, next step is to find out the process for putting forward a motion at the AGM. Can't see it being too wordy 'The NFU shall only have primary producers as members' covers it, with a definition/ criteria for primary producer.
No idea he rang me about a machine I have advertised and he was from Yorkshire. Thats all I know I am afraid.
- Location
- Essex
Voting members. And the membership would have to be public knowledge which may be against gdpr.
I don't think they'll do it though; too much money coming from the non farming bodies.
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- Moreton-in-Marsh, Glos
The Mutual will continue to give the Membership discount if pushed.
Tarw Coch
Member
- Location
- Bottom of Wats Dyke
I must admit I do sometimes wonder how much of the anti NFU/RT stuff on here is representative of the whole industry, some such posts might get a lot of likes but in reality it’s probably only 20 or 30. Not many I know seem aware of TFF and whilst most I know have some sort of grumble about RT they don’t seem to tag the NFU in as part of the problem and seem totally unaware that the NFU has any sort of connection to RT
- Location
- Hereford
I find it more frustrating when talking to folks in general who are very disappointed with the NFU yet just renew their membership cos 'they always have done' .
More frustrating is quite often they think the NFU are sorting out the RT scam .....not because they know they do but they just think that it's the type of job the NFU should do . ! It comes as a surprise to them that the NFU is very supportive of the way RT is crippling agriculture .
Steevo
Member
- Location
- Gloucestershire
"They might not be perfect, but the NFU is the only voice farmers have got" is one I heard recently.
That’s the problem. Wishy washy and members not caring enough to hold them accountable
- Location
- East Sussex
But if that only voice hasn't got anything sensible to say then best keep quiet. So no voice.
Not an NFU member. They may be toothless, but what do they have to work with? Its not like all the members are going to strike is it? Or blockade the M1 or the ports or anything? So what leverage do they have? All they can do ultimately is say please and thankyou/don't hit me again master
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- Hereford
I bet that if the NFU organised a mass demonstration on a serious issue then farmers would turn out in their droves...members or not...but the NFU are too afraid to rock the boat ....they're just too weak .....and of course the top boys want their gong/ peerage !.....or a job on the RT gravy train
You might be right about the turn out, if the countryside march was anything to go by, the powers that be know well it will be gentlemanly with be no disorder, they can ignore it completely and two days later every demonstrater will be flat out trying to catch up on thier work
- Location
- Devon
This is because what the NFu says it is doing, is good. It takes a little bit of effort to follow up on their proposals and realise that it doesn't come to fruition.
There principles on assurance is the perfect example;
Read the NFU's eight key principles for developing food assurance standards
The NFU submitted a thorough and detailed response to the Red Tractor 2021 Standards Review. We called for a fresh approach and set out eight key principles to guide the standards body to improve its offer to scheme members.
These eight principles are:
- Continue to retain trust and support growth in the domestic market for British food.
- Provide an assurance platform for growth in the export market for British food and ensure high value exports have robust assurance supporting traceability claims.
- Retain its leading position on cost effective assurance and protect members from inspection and regulatory duplication. Any additional costs associated with implementing new standards should be supported with a clear and simple cost benefit analysis or business case.
- Be empowered to challenge duplicity within the marketplace and not facilitate the hypocrisy of buyers' sourcing policies which undermines domestic standards.
- Seek to add value through segmentation and market differentiation where there is a need to deliver different value propositions to different markets, without inflating the core standard and eroding value to scheme members.
- Provide marketing choice for buyers. Scheme options, or bolt-ons, could provide competition for cost-effective or a more practicable alternative for brands and scheme members alike.
- Provide a viable but discretionary alternative to new or increasing regulatory burdens and it should deliver efficient solutions in areas that are susceptible to regulatory burdens.
- Explore the opportunities for inspections to be driven by outcomes and data, and where possible redudce the burden of inspection and add value back to farmers
Those at the NFU who wrote that got it pretty much spot on.
If you listened to the how the leaders of the NFU were promoting RT, you would have good reason to believe they met those principles but a quick check shows they clearly, obviously and demonstrably don't.
What you see on here is a small amount. I’m seeing it on faceache, Twitter etc all the time and those platforms reach hundreds of millions and most importantly the general public.
Any dedicated farming forum is specific to industry personnel in the main.