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[Panicnow]

More effective might be to get the branch NFUs (i.e. Farmers) to disassociate themselves from the National body (non-farmers).

 

[MrNoo]

I would say that they're doing a good job on this side of the border currently, and I continue to be a member for that reason.

So if they're doing that good a job why was there over a 1,000 peeps at one of the markets last night?? Was their meeting encouraged/supported by the Welsh NFU??

 

[colhonk]

While since I bought a new pickup, both the last 2 the salesman asked if I wanted to use nfu discount, Not a menber says I, Good, I can gve you a lot better discount / price then.
Think he says the nfu discount was off the full retail price,that no one buys at.

 

[Brisel]

Snap I never noticed a change when I left, they did point out that I would miss out on discount for a new Range Rover etc and would miss their legal help etc. To be honest what they have costed my business over the years pales into insignificance re any discount offered.
As others have said can be got cheaper elsewhere but you have to get off your arse to do it, guess, it's the same old routine, renewal, easy, just write the check, one stop shop. And unfortunately they know it

If you want a discount on your next JLR or any other vehicle, other memberships like BASC will also get you access to the same car buying groups like Tyson Cooper.

 

[Mixedupfarmer]

To be fair, the Chancellor of the Exchequer did say, at the time that he backtracked on dropping the red diesel rebate for Ag (when construction lost it), that it was due to lobbying by the NFU.

Not a fact readily admitted on this forum of course.

To be fair, the NFU were not the only ones lobbying (TFA, etc), but they obviously were part of it.

 

[neilo]

So if they're doing that good a job why was there over a 1,000 peeps at one of the markets last night?? Was their meeting encouraged/supported by the Welsh NFU??

Encouraged and supported, yes.

At last week's Welshpool protest meeting, there were 2 chairing the meeting, one from NFU and one from FUW.

 

[Sonoftheheir]

So NFU Wales is not backing net zero?

 

[MrNoo]

Encouraged and supported, yes.

At last week's Welshpool protest meeting, there were 2 chairing the meeting, one from NFU and one from FUW.

Glad to hear it, will they be ostracised from the main UK NFU? Or will the Welsh NFU form a splinter group?? Seems it's getting a bit of a mess with the NFU having differing stances depending where you live. Stanley would label the Welsh protestors far right wing, he stated as such on Twatter.

 

[kfpben]

Glad to hear it, will they be ostracised from the main UK NFU? Or will the Welsh NFU form a splinter group?? Seems it's getting a bit of a mess with the NFU having differing stances depending where you live. Stanley would label the Welsh protestors far right wing, he stated as such on Twatter.

Not really. Devolution means it’s pretty important to have the ability to speak to all forms of government. Welsh government currently seems much more hostile to farming than England, hence a different approach is needed.

Stanley doesn’t exactly run the NFU, he’s a county Chairman. The equivalent of a backbench MP.

There really is a mass of ill informed guff on this thread, some of it bordering on conspiracy theory.

 

[Old apprentice]

. Stanley would label the Welsh protestors far right wing, he stated as such on Twatter.

Stupid to say that

 

[kfpben]

More effective might be to get the branch NFUs (i.e. Farmers) to disassociate themselves from the National body (non-farmers).

Why on earth would that be a good idea?
I say that as an NFU branch chairman.

This idea that everyone who ever goes to a meeting in Stoneleigh is a non farmer is just a total lie. Plenty of livestock farmers on NFU boards, plenty of tenants. Proper working farmers.

 

[Barleymow]

I emailed the local guy this morning stating our reasons to cancel. He’s emailed me back, he says he’s sorry to see us go and he’ll let the higher ups know how we feel. But he did say the following -

“please try and remember that without the NFU you would be paying over £300 more per 1,000lts for your fuel, all down to the pressure and influence of the NFU”

“I know what your objections are, and I must say that this confusion over Red Tractor that its NFU owned often comes up, yes we are involved in it, but NFU do not own it, the only reason its all under review at present is due to the NFU”

“I will come back to you next week, as you currently have a discount on the farms business insurance which is linked to your membership I would just like to work out the cost of this for you, I would not wish to add any additional costs to you but I have always been honest and upfront so it would be wrong of me not to do so”

Thoughts?

Nfu negotiated electric wayleaves down

 

[Henarar]

It’s the membership side I’m not agreeing with, insurance wise I’m not sure if we’d get a better quote with the claims we’ve had the past few years (and not all our fault) They have paid out £1000’s without much arguing.

I have tried 4 others for insurance over the last few years and non have been any cheaper than NFU

 

[neilo]

Glad to hear it, will they be ostracised from the main UK NFU? Or will the Welsh NFU form a splinter group?? Seems it's getting a bit of a mess with the NFU having differing stances depending where you live. Stanley would label the Welsh protestors far right wing, he stated as such on Twatter.

He didn't though did he. He said he thought there were right wing agents stirring up some of the protesting in Europe, just for the sake of protest, not for farming.

I heard speakers at the Welshpool meeting that were attempting to do just that, nothing to do with farming and everything to do with protesting to try to unseat the UK govt and the WEF, who are apparently to blame for everything. That group were bussed in from Birmingham, to a meeting for Welsh farmers that was taking place to gauge the appetite for a protest.

 

[Tamar]

Watching the miners strikes on TV last night, where a considerable amount of them detested the NUM (National Union of Miners) and promptly set up their own union by dropping the N.

Maybe the BFU should have just dropped the N from NFU and become the Farmers Union......

......F U for short !!

 

[kfpben]

Watching the miners strikes on TV last night, where a considerable amount of them detested the NUM (National Union of Miners) and promptly set up their own union by dropping the N.

Maybe the BFU should have just dropped the N from NFU and become the Farmers Union......

......F U for short !!

Probably a lesson in trying to start full scale unrest against the government- there’s only likely to be one winner!

 

[soapsud]

Not really. Devolution means it’s pretty important to have the ability to speak to all forms of government. Welsh government currently seems much more hostile to farming than England, hence a different approach is needed.

Stanley doesn’t exactly run the NFU, he’s a county Chairman. The equivalent of a backbench MP.

There really is a mass of ill informed guff on this thread, some of it bordering on conspiracy theory.

I say that as an NFU branch chairman.

Probably a lesson in trying to start full scale unrest against the government- there’s only likely to be one winner!

Please say a bit more?
Firstly you say welsh farmers are having a hard time.
Then you say you are actively involved in the NFU.
Then you say that protesting against the WA SFS roll out ends in only one way.

Either the welsh have legitimate grievances or they don't?
Either they can demonstrate that or they can't?

I have in-laws in Wales and I can tell you feelings are running high.
The consultation will close on 7 March 2024.
I've also said on here that I'm against disruptive and violent protest.

But something needs to be done, don't you agree?
What do you suggest?

Saying that things are bad but nothing can be done about it, won't wash!

 

[JP1]

Why on earth would that be a good idea?
I say that as an NFU branch chairman.

This idea that everyone who ever goes to a meeting in Stoneleigh is a non farmer is just a total lie. Plenty of livestock farmers on NFU boards, plenty of tenants. Proper working farmers.

You can't deny the influence of non farmer members though

NFU immensely quiet over the impending GFC launch with RT in April (no denials.....)

AHDB Director was right when he pointed out that it's the NFU's job to do political lobbying for farmers within RT - how's that going?

 

[kfpben]

Please say a bit more?
Firstly you say welsh farmers are having a hard time.
Then you say you are actively involved in the NFU.
Then you say that protesting against the WA SFS roll out ends in only one way.

Either the welsh have legitimate grievances or they don't?
Either they can demonstrate that or they can't?

I have in-laws in Wales and I can tell you feelings are running high.
The consultation will close on 7 March 2024.
I've also said on here that I'm against disruptive and violent protest.

But something needs to be done, don't you agree?
What do you suggest?

Saying that things are bad but nothing can be done about it, won't wash!

I wouldn’t be against protest in the right circumstances. The Welsh scenario may be approaching that. In England I don’t think we are, though I think those on Dartmoor might disagree re the recent NE fiasco.
By ‘full scale unrest’ I was talking about running clashes with police Battle of Orgreave style.

What can be done? Dialogue, lobbying, conversation. All the time and at all levels of government from the parish council to the PM. Which is what the NFU does best. Boring but important.
Do we always get what we want? Of course not. Do we make a positive difference for farmers? Undoubtedly.

 

[BrianV]

I wouldn’t be against protest in the right circumstances. The Welsh scenario may be approaching that. In England I don’t think we are, though I think those on Dartmoor might disagree re the recent NE fiasco.
By ‘full scale unrest’ I was talking about running clashes with police Battle of Orgreave style.

What can be done? Dialogue, lobbying, conversation. All the time and at all levels of government from the parish council to the PM. Which is what the NFU does best. Boring but important.
Do we always get what we want? Of course not. Do we make a positive difference for farmers? Undoubtedly.

Finding it hard at the moment to think of any glaring examples of a positive difference unless of course you are a large arable estate thinking of reducing staff numbers growing bird seed & having an easy life, even more difficult to see here on Dartmoor.