Case ih 895 help please

[hendrebc]

Does anyone have a case ih 895 like this one that could do me a quick favour please?

The brakes wont work and i have to bleed them every time i use it. Im convinced thers isnt enough oil in the back end but the dipstick says there is 20mm over the maximum. But... the dipstick is the tractors third or fourth as we kept losing them out of the backend (thats why itd rusty it doesnt live in the tractor anymore) so im starting to think the one we have is the wrong one for the tractor. Could anyone measure theirs for me? Its really getting on my nerves now

 

[Red Fred]

Is it really 40" long? Mine is only 8" long to the flat washer but I'm only a humble Stockman Special driver (The l-cab one goes through a rusty hole by your left heel, so is probably completely different)

 

[hendrebc]

Is it really 40" long? Mine is only 8" long to the flat washer but I'm only a humble Stockman Special driver (The l-cab one goes through a rusty hole by your left heel, so is probably completely different)

Yes it goes in from a pipe from the back next to the rams for the hyrdaulic arms. Thats why its been lost so many times it must be catching on something there and then slides out

 

[mengeleguru]

On the front of the brake cylinders is a plastic reservoir

On the bottom of it are 4 pipes

Take the large one in the Center off and there is a steel tube in the bottom of it

If it’s showing it has slid down ,originally mounded in ,really needs a new bottle but for now slide it back up, it keep the resovoir at the correct level

Bleed brakes & should be better

Bottle probably £35.00 ish

 

[hendrebc]

On the front of the brake cylinders is a plastic reservoir

On the bottom of it are 4 pipes

Take the large one in the Center off and there is a steel tube in the bottom of it

If it’s showing it has slid down ,originally mounded in ,really needs a new bottle but for now slide it back up, it keep the resovoir at the correct level

Bleed brakes & should be better

Bottle probably £35.00 ish

Thanks will have a look at that it could well be the problem. Its been like this for a long time now no matter what the oil level is. It might be ok for 6 months then it will need doing evert day for 6 months then be fine. Had to bleed them twice today
Still sure its low on oil though the loader moves very slowly when its at the top and when the loader is up and i push the brakes there is a juddering noise i can feel through the pedal. Doesnt do it with the loader down the bottom though.

 

[peewit]

We have an IH 995 which is the same as yours with a turbo. Tried to upload a photo but phone not working well today! Anyway it shows the min line at 102cm. We had the same problem with ours a few years ago, brakes needed bleeding constantly. It needed new seals in the trumpet housings which cured it.

 

[hendrebc]

We have an IH 995 which is the same as yours with a turbo. Tried to upload a photo but phone not working well today! Anyway it shows the min line at 102cm. We had the same problem with ours a few years ago, brakes needed bleeding constantly. It needed new seals in the trumpet housings which cured it.

Thanks

 

[Richard Devon]

Thanks will have a look at that it could well be the problem. Its been like this for a long time now no matter what the oil level is. It might be ok for 6 months then it will need doing evert day for 6 months then be fine. Had to bleed them twice today
Still sure its low on oil though the loader moves very slowly when its at the top and when the loader is up and i push the brakes there is a juddering noise i can feel through the pedal. Doesnt do it with the loader down the bottom though.

In the ops manual it says that to correctly check the oil level you need to run the tractor for 5 minutes then pull the stick so that the internal cascade oil levels are established. They will not hurt from overfilling with oil anyway

 

[hendrebc]

In the ops manual it says that to correctly check the oil level you need to run the tractor for 5 minutes then pull the stick so that the internal cascade oil levels are established. They will not hurt from overfilling with oil anyway

Yes always check it when its been running for a bit. We never had trouble till we put a loader on it im wondering if the loader pumping all the time is affecting the level on the dipstick somehow. Sometimes the dipstick will have oil over it up about 8 inches over the maximum but only on one side like its blown up from somewere. When we first put the loader on it used to blow oil out of the pipe were the dipstick goes i like a leaking tap. It was plumbed in to one of the spools on the back and then back in through the top were the oil gets filled. It worked but needed the spool lever in flow all the time and was annoying because sometimes under load it would jump back to stop the loader and i only had one spool on the back. That blocked the breather off as well though so mught have been why it was blowing out the dipstick pipe. My mechanic mate knew how to set the loader up without needing to use the spool so he did whatever he did with it and now i have trouble with the brakes. Pretty sure the oil is low even though the dipstick says theres too much in i mught put some more in anyway if you say it wont hurt it. Thanks

 

[Richard Devon]

as you seem to suggest the casing is not venting properly and likely why its blowing the dipstick out.
There should be another breather as well as the one that exists (in most cases) in the filler plug. The other is hidden on top of the transmission casing and you will find it if you take the seat out, while you have got the seat out ask your mechanic mate to look towards the r.h. wheel and he will see the spool slices, there's a loop pipe on top of it and you need to plumb in your loader valve through that, supply and return according to the arrows in the diagram

 

[essexpete]

The judder on the brake pedal probably the trailer brake spool actuating. Were you losing dip sticks because of back pressure? The intermittent brake problem definitely worth looking at the plastic pot and fill tube.

 

[hendrebc]

as you seem to suggest the casing is not venting properly and likely why its blowing the dipstick out.
There should be another breather as well as the one that exists (in most cases) in the filler plug. The other is hidden on top of the transmission casing and you will find it if you take the seat out, while you have got the seat out ask your mechanic mate to look towards the r.h. wheel and he will see the spool slices, there's a loop pipe on top of it and you need to plumb in your loader valve through that, supply and return according to the arrows in the diagram

Thats very helpful thanks. Id probably even be able to do that myself with that diagram. I know he put the loader through something under the seat maybe he put it through were the breather is meant to be instead of that loop pipe. Ill have a look one of these days before the cattle come in hopefully this next week or two.

 

[hendrebc]

The judder on the brake pedal probably the trailer brake spool actuating. Were you losing dip sticks because of back pressure? The intermittent brake problem definitely worth looking at the plastic pot and fill tube.

It could well be the trailer brake that is juddering. I thought it was odd it only did it when the loader was up.
We lost dipsticks before the loader was put on i think they were catching on something and working loose but it could have been backpressure as well. I just have a bit of tied off rubber pipe over were its meant to go now to stop crap getting in there but sometimes oil did flow out of were the dipstick is meant to go like it was an open tap. It hasnt done that for a while though but i think its low on oil so the pressure isnt there to blow out the same.
Will definetly have a look at the plastic pot and fill tube. I have done before when it was leaking all over the place and i changed somethibg on it so i should remember how to do it this time as well

 

[startinghandle]

if you have return going to filler cap … that could be problem, as the oil returns you are getting a lot of air bubbles in oil causing brake problems… the correct place for return is big plug on right hand side at bottom which is below oil level preventing bubbles.... also check that oil cooler is clear and fan blade is clean

 

[startinghandle]

if that does not fix problem then could be seals which has been mentioned... by the way I used to work at main IH dealer...…. what fluid are you using?

 

[hendrebc]

if that does not fix problem then could be seals which has been mentioned... by the way I used to work at main IH dealer...…. what fluid are you using?

Ysually use solar oils. The stuff in the gearbox is a universal tractor transmission oil from solar. I know its not the best oil i could be using
The stuff in the bottle i cant remember what that is. Was probably solar again but it was the right stuff for it. The bottle is probably still here somewere

 

[agrimax]

Think you should drain the oil and see how much comes out.
Around 34l from dry to full. You'll not get it all out but if you put 34l back in, it'll be safe and you can see what it shows on the d'stick with the known right amount in it.

 

[hendrebc]

Think you should drain the oil and see how much comes out.
Around 34l from dry to full. You'll not get it all out but if you put 34l back in, it'll be safe and you can see what it shows on the d'stick with the known right amount in it.

Thats a pretty good idea

 

[Richard Devon]

this is the other breather I mentioned above