Cement out of date

S J H

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Bedfordshire
@S J H just an idea, when you come to mix it for your walls, if you need to buy more cement mix it half and half, half out of date half new. Of course this won't work if you've enough

Good idea Rob,

I'll see how much I've used before I start the walls,

I don't know if it will end up any cheaper but if I only use a third, then it will be the same money.
 

Alf

Member
Location
Scotland
Are you for real - knowingly advising something like this is appalling, and subsequently puts businesses at risk!

I am at a loss as to what goes through people's heads sometimes. Life is hard for all businesses, some more than others, but to think practices like the above are without impact amazes me. This not only affects the innocent business, but inadvertently increases the cost of goods further down the lines through yearly adjustment of running costs!
I couldn't agree more .
 

S J H

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Bedfordshire
should be on the bag somewhere or they may put it in a clarification like cem1 ,i never worry about sell by dates the key will be getting the mix right ,are you using a pan mixer

Yes I think I will be. I think I'll end up using one for round the house, so I might aswell get one bought, I've got a couple of jobs I could put it on this year as well. Do you reckon mixed ballast will be ok? Or better to buy 20mm and sand separate
 
I feel the same, I mixed up bag of ballast today and I'm knackered (n)

Just out of curiosity, what are your £ savings on doing it yourself?

I did the figures a yr or so back and I couldn't match the cost (let alone quality) of ready mix on just buying the ballets and cement before labour.

There is an element of the 'handy factor' but for more than a cube or so it's just not worth it for me :scratchhead:
 

S J H

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Bedfordshire
Just out of curiosity, what are your £ savings on doing it yourself?

I did the figures a yr or so back and I couldn't match the cost (let alone quality) of ready mix on just buying the ballets and cement before labour.

There is an element of the 'handy factor' but for more than a cube or so it's just not worth it for me :scratchhead:
I want to do some shuttered walls so as you say it will be handy, if I've only got one set of shutters then I'll need 2.5 cube per bay. It would too much as volumetric or minimix.

I'll hopefully have a lot of building work going on in the next few years, so I think I'll use it.

If been paying £87 for c35, so very roughly 2 tonnes of ballast at £50 400kgs of cement £18 equals £68 excluding water and labour and I expect readymix will stronger. I don't know about the ballast price, I'm sure it will be cheaper,
 
Ballets is about £35 / ton bag which I think is 0.8m3

Cement was £3 a bag for me give or take.

I have a local mix on site firm who can mix about 12 m3 at any strength you ask.

For me it's not worth messing about
 

S J H

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Bedfordshire
Ballets is about £35 / ton bag which I think is 0.8m3

Cement was £3 a bag for me give or take.

I have a local mix on site firm who can mix about 12 m3 at any strength you ask.

For me it's not worth messing about

No but you haven't taken into account what you just asked me 1 cube of volumetric will be £120+
 

phillipe

Member
i buy 17 tonnes of 14mm to dust premix (have a bay to put it in and a sand bay) ,me and lad mix and lay 2 cube ,any more and it doesnt pay
 

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