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No its not , it is tankered away and processed. They have to remove all the kerosene for a start.Held in tanks,sprayed on planes and runways then down the local stream....
No its not , it is tankered away and processed. They have to remove all the kerosene for a start.Held in tanks,sprayed on planes and runways then down the local stream....
More time wasted and show boating.Head man from the states has flown in to meet with the government tomorrow.
I don't expect you've ever been offered millions from the uk tax payerMore time wasted and show boating.
I have had a few crises with my business over the years. If it couldn’t be fixed over the phone then chances are a face to face meeting couldn’t fix it either. But they do like meetings and flights.
Well, err…not millions no. But I still think that the need for flights and face to meetings to sort things out is an unnecessary waste.I don't expect you've ever been offered millions from the uk tax payer
Boycie died today......Always look on the bright side of life................no fertilizer equals less food produced, which means it will rocket in price and farmers will be everyones best friend.
This time next year Rodney........................
So sad, met him a couple of years ago at a flower show. After talking for a few minutes, said to the wife, that chap John is so like the guy from fools and horses. She said, that was John Challis you idiot!Boycie died today......
Too right. I did a few back of envelope calcs and worked out i'd need 40 12 volts lead acid batteries to give me the same power output as a grey fergy and they'd last about 2 hours. Can't see electrical power making inroads into agricultural machinery any time soon. We are going to need internal combustion engines in farming and haulage for years to come. Hopefully we can produce enough renewable veg oils and ethanol to keep them going. Better idea than electricity.As of 10pm this evening 89% of the electric in the UK is being produced by conventional means, nuclear, gas & coal either here or imported, so much for the eco pipe dream of always relying on green energy providers! Time to wake up to the real world.
When will Britain start fracking I wonder
Ollyblogs farms opposite the factory. Looked as if it had shutdown. Maybe just cause it's a Sunday.So have these CF factories in the UK already stopped production? It was only announced end of last week and now the world appears to have melted down and ground to a halt!
Talk of issues with food in 10 days time….seems rather quick to me!
It's not that ' one company has become big enough' - CF in the UK ultimately came about through the original sale of the 2 ICI fertiliser plants at Billingham & Severnside to Terra from the US (Who shut down Severnside) and then the take-over by Norwegian co Yara of Kemira who owned the Ince plant and which entered into a joint ownership with CF who then acquired 100% of the 2 production sites; There has been a complete lack of recognition by our Government of the widespread strategic importance of the 2 privately owned production facilities, not only around them producing Ammonium Nitrate but also crucially, Co2 - which as was made very apparent only a few years ago, has major widespread implications should shortages occur. - Welcome to Global free-market Britain.Also makes you wonder how one company has become big enough to bring the country to a halt….
Plenty of talk on here previously of how AN was a rollover from the munitions factories in the war….seems we as a country can’t do without them today either!
Does urea production create CO2 also?
It's not that ' one company has become big enough' - CF in the UK ultimately came about through the original sale of the 2 ICI fertiliser plants at Billingham & Severnside to Terra from the US (Who shut down Severnside) and then the take-over by Norwegian co Yara of Kemira who owned the Ince plant and which entered into a joint ownership with CF who then acquired 100% of the 2 production sites; There has been a complete lack of recognition by our Government of the widespread strategic importance of the 2 privately owned production facilities, not only around them producing Ammonium Nitrate but also crucially, Co2 - which as was made very apparent only a few years ago, has major widespread implications should shortages occur. - Welcome to Global free-market Britain.
They have only become so big because there is no other competition in terms of other AN manufacturers in the UK- Norsk Hydro (Yara) shut down their AN factory at Immingham years ago and the huge cost and likely planning restrictions on any would be new AN factory being built in the UK means there won't be competition to dilute their current position; If the fact they produce so vital a commodity that it's deemed to be in the UK national interest to our Government then they should become stakeholders on have a direct say in how it is controlled but that just won't happen- plus with the green agenda, AN is going to become ever more undesirable so if say 1 of the 2 factories gets closed for pure commercial reasons, what happens to those customers currently buying all the CO2 that it used to produce as a by-product?It’s one company today.
They have (been allowed to) become big enough that their decisions can shut the country down.
Until they made that decision to stop last week, nobody seemed aware of this potential “threat”.
It’s one company today.
They have (been allowed to) become big enough that their decisions can shut the country down.
Until they made that decision to stop last week, nobody seemed aware of this potential “threat”.
How do countries that don’t have fertiliser factories source their required CO2?
I can’t quite make head or tail out of all this…
Its called just in time production, it is how the worlds manufacturers operate todaySo have these CF factories in the UK already stopped production? It was only announced end of last week and now the world appears to have melted down and ground to a halt!
Talk of issues with food in 10 days time….seems rather quick to me!