Claydon drills?

[JLLM]

What are the differences between a Hybrid and an SR drill?

 

[Jerry]

@Devon James @Brisel

 

[topcat2006]

The hybrid is lighter and has a narrower leading tine so should need slightly less horses.

The SR has a sulky hopper and metering unit with an RDS Wizard controller and land wheel drive. If the electronics fail you can manually set the gearbox and carryon drilling.

The Hybrid has an accord type meter with electric motor and RDS Apollo controller. If the electrics fail you cannot carry on drilling as no landwheel drive.

In my experience the sulky metering unit struggles with beans at high rates but other than that is fine.

 

[Brisel]

SR drill

Hybrid


I can't say much about the SR drill because I've never seen one up close. IMO the Hybrid is just that - a perfected design. The leading tines on the SR do look wider.

The best person to ask would be @charlie@claydon

 

[HarryB97]

If you ever have any trash issues stay well away from the SR & if you only have one big drill tractor also avoid the SR as its very heavy so cant just go on anything

 

[charlie@horizon]

Hi guys...

The Hybrid drill is an evolution of the SR drill which was an evolution of the V Drill. The principle of the seeding tines on all Claydon Drills has remained the same but the Claydon team have worked hard to develop the drills over the years and the Hybrid is now a product of 17 years development. The SR drill was an improvement on the V Drill because it has much better clearance and also have the stone release system so it was very successful for us and helped to propel Claydon into the mass market. We built the SR drill between 2004 and 2009 but then launched the Hybrid drill so stopped making them. There are about 100 SR drills across the UK and most are still in work and doing an excellent job for us. They're a cracking drill for someone who is looking for a cheaper way into Claydon drilling and I would still recommend them because they will do a good job in most circumstances.


The key improvements in the Hybrid are;

• Seed placement on the Hybrid Drill is more consistent because the relationship between the seeding tine and the front tine is fixed so the front tine will pull the seeding tine into the ground no matter what the ground conditions. With the SR drill the relationship between the two tines is independent and the seeding tine has more flexibility in it so you have to keep a closer eye on how the drill is reacting to the soil. This design also meant that the SR drill has 2 frames which does add to the weight, from memory the 3m SR drill is circa 2.5 tonnes and the 3m Hybrid is about 1.5 tonnes depending on spec.
• The SR drill has a spring loaded stone release system on the front tine which does vibrate in the soil more than on the Hybrid drill which uses a hydraulic system. A lot of our customers who use the SR drill prefer the extra vibration but on the whole the front tine on the hybrid is more refined.
• Options; there are a lot more options available on the Hybrid drill so users can configure the machine to their needs such as pre-em markers, fert placement, twin tine seeding kit, different tool bars and cutting discs etc.
• Usability; the Hybrid is also a more user friendly drill with touch button calibration, variable rate capability, a nicer operator screen etc.
• For me the biggest improvement on the Hybrid Drill is the soil coverage due to the double tool bar having a row of paddle boards and then a row of green harrows. This isn't available on the SR drill but a lot of them have a row of batterboards rather than the press wheels that the early models had. If you're looking at buying an SR drill, try to find one with batterboards on the back.

Now that the SR drill has been out of production for 10 years there are some bargains on offer in the 2nd hand market which will still deliver good results. However if you spend a bit more money and buy a Hybrid you will certainly get a more refined drill on which you are able to fit all the options we currently offer.

We have several 2nd hand drills available in our network to suit all budgets so please feel free to drop me a call on 07747231289 so we can explore what would be best for you.

Hope that all makes sense.

Charlie

 

[JLLM]

Thanks for the replies, as far as I can see all the SR drills have auto reset on the leading legs, whereas the Hybrids sometimes have it ? Would 140hp be enough on an SR? lightish land, mostly flat.

 

[charlie@horizon]

If its flat and light then you will be OK with 140hp but you will certainly know its on the back and will need to have a good weight block on the front.

 

[nick...]

Why are discs not fitted to cut through the trash.cant imagine these drill woukd work in 3/4 ft high cover crops and just bung up solid
Nick...

 

[Brisel]

There’s a video on YouTube of @juke drilling into a thick cover crop. The trailed Hybrid drills have the option of a shouldered leading disc in front of the leg to cut through the trash. Not available on mounted ones though you can swap the leading tine for a single or twin disc.

 

[clbarclay]

Tall cover crops can be rather variable. A few years ago I has to stop drilling a field with a moore because the moist clay soil and long stems from the cover crop kept baling up between the press wheels until it bunged it all up. I tried the tine drill instead (converted pig tail tine cultivator) and that had no trouble at all with that cover crop.

 

[Rob Holmes]

 

[Brisel]

You could have pulled a 4m through that no problem. Did you consider going at an angle to fill the wheelings in? Just curious.

 

[Rob Holmes]

With press wheels

 

[Rob Holmes]

You could have pulled a 4m through that no problem. Did you consider going at an angle to fill the wheelings in? Just curious.

That was the fields straightest edge and tramlines work out better, unfortunately the maize drilling man had same idea

 

[Brisel]

With press wheels

Where are the press wheels? An add on when you fitted the trailed kit?

 

[Rob Holmes]

Yeah, we had press wheels with the trailing kit which can be swapped for shouldered discs

 

[Brisel]

Are the shouldered discs any good?

 

[juke]

this was drilling beans last autum, drilling on the green, didn't take any video of the thickest parts of the cover crop in that field. we have drilled into thicker crops, the leading discs on the mounted drill make such as difference to the drill, all of our cereals are drilled using the discs no point in using the leg for them. the soild profile is always nice and open following either a cover crop, beans or osr.

the third video is our drill aswell shows the cutting discs better this was into sprayed of crop

 

[fred.950]

Are the shouldered discs any good?

We have the shouldered disc in front of the tine and it doesn’t really cut anything it just pushes straw into the ground, it might be better on different soil.