Everyman for himself im afraid, alot on here want red tractor finished with which will help the arable men but will just allow more foreign meat in and f,eck the livestock farmer. Im buying feed thats got £300/t corn in it so you cant say im not supporting the uk arable job.
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- Thread starter Jerry
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- Location
- Lincolnshire
Oh I used to dance with a lovely Ukrainian girl. In times gone by. When I lived in the Czech Republic. And travelled the region extensively. She was lovely. And still is.
- Location
- Darlington
I might sell at £279 just in case the market the market collapses when it hits £280.00280 is my trigger.
SilliamWhale
Member
Why will it allow in foreign meat? You can have plenty of British meat with a UK flag on it, don't let Red Tractor kid you that only they are able to supply British meat with a label on it
We all agree that red tractor isnt fit for purpose but im of the opinion once its dropped completely we give the green light for any old rubbish to flood in using all means to disguise it as looking like british.
Sure she's a fragile market for us to collapse itI might sell at £279 just in case the market the market collapses when it hits £280.00
Is the corn from the uk?
fieldfarmer
Member
Why bother to disguise it, you've proven you want to buy on price alone so why worry if the consumers do likewise after all their just looking out for themselves.
I can just see the next ad campaign.
"Don't bother supporting British farmers., they don't support each other".
SilliamWhale
Member
RT doesn't make any difference on that. It would be a trading standards issue if it is advertised as British and it's not.
Anyway in livestock you have a choice of markets
- Location
- Shropshire
He has a point
- Location
- Shropshire
Not really
I’ve got dairy blue steers which I fatten.
If I take them to market they will make around £200 per head less than if I take them to ABP etc (I know this from experience)
However, in order to sell to ABP they must be farm assured otherwise ABP will pay me £300-400 per animal less.
Is that a REd Tractor premium?
Or am I forced to be red tractor assured in the same way arable farmers are?
- Location
- Essex
Yes it replaces all the feed barley that is quickly removed from the market during July, before any of it finds its way onto livestock farms.
That way the trade gets double the profit. Never mind the carbon sost of moving it all there and then back again.
Presumably the Ukrainian maize is treated with neonicotinoids as well?
Around here, non assured lamb makes just as much as assured does
I didnt say advertised as british, just putting red white and blue on parts of the packaging is enough to fool the busy housewife worrying about other things. Not being FA effects cull cow prices a heck of alot/limits outlets etc and some buyers will only buy store cattle at a discounted price when it suits.
- Location
- Lincolnshire
Rock and a hard place isnt it. Hard to support the UK fert industry after last season! And the season before. And, actually most seasons.
Imagine the dilemma between say Dutch pork fed on exported British RT barley, say, and British pork fed on imported maize. That's an example - I'm not sure that happens. Perhaps stuff with a UK sticker on should be born, raised, killed, cut, packed in the UK and fed on UK grains? Not a politician so what can I do.
£267ex feed wheat may 23.
- Location
- Northumberland
Excellent. I, too, have really only the abp route for my dairy (Hf & blue) steers. It's the equivalent of only selling grain to frontier and wondering where that will lead.
Then there's of issue of selling when ready. The was some 'discussion' recently about city boys distorting the market. Imagine if grain had to be continually fed nitrogen but any extra yield over 4t/ac was taken for free and over 12% protein (fat in my analogy) caused a reduction in price.
Anyway, closer to topic, what would be the market effect of a more normal European harvest timing that caused the bottom of a few more bins to be seen? The current heap might well have to last 13 months.
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Chae1
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- Location
- Aberdeenshire
Was told today, fuel prices dropping due to wheat coming out of the Ukraine. 
- Location
- Lincolnshire
Eyes on French maize at the moment.
4/7/22 84% excellent or goiod
11/7/22 83% excellent or good
18/7/22 75% excellent or good
25/7/22 68% excellent or good
two more hot and dry weeks expected. What will the percentage excellent / good be by 15/8/22? Could be sub-50%. France produces 1/4 of Europes grain maize (2015 data)
More like oil is getting out of russiaWas told today, fuel prices dropping due to wheat coming out of the Ukraine.