Complete farce

[hoff135]

Constantly hearing that we need to plant more trees to save the world. At this very moment network rail sub contractors are felling dozens of 100 year old plus broadleaf trees up to 20 yards from the track. The wood is shredded and dumped and the stumps poisoned so they cant grow back. These were growing beside a field a provided a valuable wind break and habitat. Now it will be completely windswept and barren. No tree has ever fallen on the track here. Seeing it happen in other locations to. Utter disgrace...

 

[Barleymow]

I expect the leaves land on the tracks ,we all know what chaos that causes

 

[tepapa]

Are they cutting down ash trees with ash die back?

 

[MrNoo]

Same with our local Council, old avenues of trees planted back in the 60's have all been felled due to H & S, hardly see a tree in town now unless on private property

 

[GeorgeK]

Everyone loves trees, unless they're inconveniencing them, in which case chop em down. Put them somewhere they won't get in anyone's way, like fields

 

[hoff135]

Dont think its ash die back. Its a mix of elm, sycamore, ash, beach etc. Theyve been growing there since the railway was build a hundred odd years ago. I did hear its because they want no trees within a 100m of a bridge or something but cant verify this.

 

[Northeastfarmer]

The government don’t give a fudge about trees when they allow thousands of them to be felled for cheap crappy housing estates to be built everywhere

 

[betweenthelines]

Read the Anton Coaker articles. Trees only lock up carbon during the first few years of growth. Once mature, they stop locking up carbon. So to be useful in carbon harvesting, they need felling and replacing with younger trees. But if you burn the wood, you're freeing the carbon anyway so there is no overall gain.

 

[pembsarable]

Our local railway line is shut for the next 5 weeks as Network Rail are clearing all vegetation from alongside the railway line a distance of 8 meters or to the boundary fencing. Trees, shrubs, bushes - all being destroyed.

 

[Cab-over Pete]

Constantly hearing that we need to plant more trees to save the world. At this very moment network rail sub contractors are felling dozens of 100 year old plus broadleaf trees up to 20 yards from the track. The wood is shredded and dumped and the stumps poisoned so they cant grow back. These were growing beside a field a provided a valuable wind break and habitat. Now it will be completely windswept and barren. No tree has ever fallen on the track here. Seeing it happen in other locations to. Utter disgrace...

You want to see the destruction in the name of HS2. And there’s plenty more to come.

 

[hoff135]

Read the Anton Coaker articles. Trees only lock up carbon during the first few years of growth. Once mature, they stop locking up carbon. So to be useful in carbon harvesting, they need felling and replacing with younger trees. But if you burn the wood, you're freeing the carbon anyway so there is no overall gain.

They seem to be shredding it so i guess the carbon will be released over time and theres no new trees being planted. The stumps have been drilled and poisoned. Big lump of a diesel chipper and digger running just for added carbon release.

Trees would have been there all the 20th century when the line (north of Scotland) was far busier than now and everyone seemed to manage fine.

 

[Still Farming]

See what the lib dem candidate for that area says???

 

[TheTallGuy]

In days gone by, the lengthsmen & gangers would have kept vegetation trimmed back, as would the small lineside fires cause by hot clinker escaping the firebox & chimney. In the latter days of BR & into Railtrack such things ended up being managed in a reactionary way. This has lead to numerous incidents of trains striking fallen trees & branches, massive wheelslip problems during leaf fall with attendant damage to wheelsets & track. There's also the issue that these trees can undermine the formation/solum causing flooding issues & track stability problems along with landslips etc.

I often see some of the figures published of just how much all these problems cost Network Rail (& hence the taxpayers) - that's before you take into account the cost to the wider economy - we're talking about tens of millions of pounds per year.

As a final thought - what would folk be saying if a tree/branch fell & there was a major crash with loss of life? I suspect NR would be getting a roasting for not managing the vegetation!

 

[glasshouse]

What about this, ? hedge destruction funded by the taxpayer

 

[hoff135]

What about this, ? hedge destruction funded by the taxpayer

Whats the reason for that?

 

[Danllan]

Read the Anton Coaker articles. Trees only lock up carbon during the first few years of growth. Once mature, they stop locking up carbon. So to be useful in carbon harvesting, they need felling and replacing with younger trees. But if you burn the wood, you're freeing the carbon anyway so there is no overall gain.

Burn half, let the rest take its time to decompose. Can't help thinking that if the thousands of miles of road and rail sides were coppiced it would be a win win situation for all.

 

[Still Farming]

Worlds mad

 

[Tubbylew]

What about this, ? hedge destruction funded by the taxpayer

Is it being coppiced or grubbed out?

 

[J 1177]

I was sat a couple of months ago cutting beans listening to the latest BBC drivel on how farming is destroying the world you know the usual guff, then looked across about 800 yards away to the best part of 300 acres of former farmland, hedges, trees, water courses that had been destroyed to put the biggest fecking monstrosity you've ever seen plus a few houses. The monstrosity? A six story Amazon wharehouse the light polution from it on a night is so bad the pikies can't even lamp properly (does have its advantages then). A mass of steel and concrete all in the name of consumer greed and I'm the one destroying the environment.......hmmmm.

 

[glasshouse]

Is it being coppiced or grubbed out?

Wont make any difference , it wont grow back. Lots of home less hedgehogs