Concerned about Red Tractor collapse.

[Grass And Grain]

Spoke with my contact a Fromtier on Monday about RT.
They expect it to collapse and aren’t really worried about it.
When I mentioned a possible PPI type claim situation, they weren’t in the least surprised either!

I guess they are shipping in non-assured grain, so understand the hypocrisy, and therefore no need for RT.

Us farmers have been taken for a ride. Forced to pay up to be in RT, whilst the whole industry has been readily purchasing imports with no similar stamp of approval. Nothing wrong with the imported grain, we've just had £20 million a year extracted from our UK Ag profits.

 

[Lincsman]

Interestingly I had a ‘technical update’ from good old RT this morning giving ‘extra clarification’ about the fact that they require ALL farms to have a written health and safety policy.

Knowing how keen RT are to listen to their members views, I fired back a message doubting that their consultations with farmers would have resulted in a policy that goes well above and beyond what is required by HSE.

My message was undeliverable to that email address- apparently [email protected]
is strictly for OUTGOING communications. Says a lot about RT, really.

I got the same.
I think i will introduce a 2 day induction course like big factories have with an exam at the end, which the inspector will have to do before coming on site.

 

[Barleymow]

I got the same.
I think i will introduce a 2 day induction course like big factories have with an exam at the end, which the inspector will have to do before coming on site.

I helped a neighbour do some flooring at a paint factory we had a 20 min film on arrival. Unloaded the van then had to go on an elf n safety course and pass the exam before we could start work .Then the fire alarms went off had to go to place of safety was nearly 11 before we got started

 

[Lincsman]

I helped a neighbour do some flooring at a paint factory we had a 20 min film on arrival. Unloaded the van then had to go on an elf n safety course and pass the exam before we could start work .Then the fire alarms went off had to go to place of safety was nearly 11 before we got started

Years ago I had to go into factories here on the humber bank with my digger doing little 2 day jobs, always a morning induction, you didnt have to do it if you had done one in the last 12 months, I always opted to do another regardless, a digger sat outside earning £15/hour as it was in those days using zero fuel was a good earner!

 

[neilo]

I helped a neighbour do some flooring at a paint factory we had a 20 min film on arrival. Unloaded the van then had to go on an elf n safety course and pass the exam before we could start work .Then the fire alarms went off had to go to place of safety was nearly 11 before we got started

And we wonder why the county's buggered?

 

[neilo]

I've just received an email inviting me to register for the NFU presidential election hustings, where members can apparently put questions forward to the candidates. Do you think there'd be any chance of questions relating to RT getting through?

 

[warksfarmer]

I've just received an email inviting me to register for the NFU presidential election hustings, where members can apparently put questions forward to the candidates. Do you think there'd be any chance of questions relating to RT getting through?

. Your having a laugh. The gravy train will shut that down.

 

[Pigless]

I've just received an email inviting me to register for the NFU presidential election hustings, where members can apparently put questions forward to the candidates. Do you think there'd be any chance of questions relating to RT getting through?

NFU election? Is that one of those things where everybody votes and there could be a new leader??

 

[tullah]

From today’s email:
Extra clarification

The standard PL.5 requires all farms to have a written Health and Safety Policy, and this should be communicated to any workers. Please read the relevant scheme standards manual or visit our website for full details.

Just don't tell them you have any workers. Job done

 

[DRC]

Interesting we’ve an inspection on the 18th and it’s all going ahead as far as I know..

Mines on the 20th as well .

 

[neilo]

Mines on the 20th as well .

I heard they had compiled a list of back stabbing TFF members and weren’t going to inspect them this time.
They’re just sending suspension letters to save time.

 

[Raider112]

According to the NBA only around 25% of beef farmers are FA. I suppose these will tend to be the hill farmers with just a few sucklers as a sideline to the sheep but how many cows would we lose if they brought in whole life assurance?

 

[Drillman]

According to the NBA only around 25% of beef farmers are FA. I suppose these will tend to be the hill farmers with just a few sucklers as a sideline to the sheep but how many cows would we lose if they brought in whole life assurance?

Whole life assurance would probably mean more folks binning rt.

no benefit to anyone selling through the auctions I’m told regardless of store or fat

 

[DRC]

I heard they had compiled a list of back stabbing TFF members and weren’t going to inspect them this time.
They’re just sending suspension letters to save time.

I will do what one if my neighbours has been doing , use old stickers from before he fell out with them .
Still getting tipped at Lloyd’s according to my source .

 

[spin cycle]

I've just received an email inviting me to register for the NFU presidential election hustings, where members can apparently put questions forward to the candidates. Do you think there'd be any chance of questions relating to RT getting through?

thought the election was over ....queen minnette goes on unchallenged

 

[JCMaloney]

thought the election was over ....queen minnette goes on unchallenged


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NFU officeholder elections 2024

The NFU's national officeholder elections take place after our NFU Conference on 21 February 2023. See the videos from each of the candidates.

www.nfuonline.com

From reading this thread they`ve got some work to do!

 

[spin cycle]

NFU officeholder elections 2024

The NFU's national officeholder elections take place after our NFU Conference on 21 February 2023. See the videos from each of the candidates.

www.nfuonline.com

From reading this thread they`ve got some work to do!

i stand corrected.......being a relatively new member i'm not sure how this all 'works'....can i ,for instance, vote against minnette

 

[Timbo]

Wasn't the written H&S policy only if you've got employees?

No. ALL Farms.

 

[Drillman]

No. ALL Farms.

So for a farm like mine where there is no employees who is gonna want to see the elf and safety policy apart from rt?

it’s ticked a box but hasn’t achieved anything!

therefore it’s pointless.

sounds like a classic case of trying to replace common sense with health and safety, and seems like rt been suckered into it!


I will challenge the inspector on the day and make bloody well sure I tie them in knots over it.

Edit- before anyone pulls me to pieces over the above, yes farm safety is very important but anything written down has to achieve something or it’s not worth doing,

At it’s most extreme I’m probably going to end up rushing a job and cutting corners so I can get back into the farm office to write a policy that no one is ever going to read, Totally counter productive imo. And against all its trying to achieve!

 

[Drillman]

Here’s a good one

2 screen shots here. On the top one there is an icon marked ‘The benefits of red tractor assurance’

if you click on it it brings you to the second screen shot.


so finally an admission from the tractor that membership has no benefits