Confessions of the Sheep/Beef Cattle/Pig Addicts

AngusLad

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You just need to cross them with a Holstein bull every third time.
Joking aside I agree with @e3120
If the calves are out of big framey holsteins you can get some size into them By 24m
Not sure how the Holstein influence would enjoy it out here mind. (Picture not taken today)
 

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unlacedgecko

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You just need to cross them with a Holstein bull every third time.
Joking aside I agree with @e3120
If the calves are out of big framey holsteins you can get some size into them By 24m
Rob Fleming did something similar. Bottom 10% of Angus cows (for calf 200 day weight) were served with Fresian sexed semen and heifers retained. I haven't heard how he got on though.
 

hendrebc

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You just need to cross them with a Holstein bull every third time.
Joking aside I agree with @e3120
If the calves are out of big framey holsteins you can get some size into them By 24m
My last angus bull was 1440kg last time he fit the in the crush to be weighed how much bigger do you want them :scratchhead:
Steers from him were all 400kg dead and heifers were all 350kg or more off grass at 24-26 months.
Don't ask about my current bull though unless you want to buy him :bag:
 

Rich_ard

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Big difference between a genuine Friesian and a Holstein though. Friesian cows in the past bred great suckler cows
Bought my suckler cows from a dairy in ayrshire as bulling heifers. Friesan/ hereford. They are low cost but I put Angus then Hereford. They not big cows and did have losses to start with. I suppose you breed what works on the farm. No point trying to breed a massive cow on a hill same waste of time running highlands on lowland
 

e3120

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Plain Holstein x plain Angus. I anticipate having to get creative with the passport tomorrow. Has a bit of back so might scrape an O+. The fat helps.

It takes just as much to haul, teach to drink, vaccinate, handle and haul again 380kg as 320

He's one of the handful that were out to 1st November; silage and straw since. His mate is going to get some hard feed.

Still very much the minority here.
 

Lincs

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My last angus bull was 1440kg last time he fit the in the crush to be weighed how much bigger do you want them :scratchhead:
Steers from him were all 400kg dead and heifers were all 350kg or more off grass at 24-26 months.
Don't ask about my current bull though unless you want to buy him :bag:
Alot of the dairy bred Angus heifers would be very fat at 250kgs dead. The beef bred or Holstein do get to the 400kgs much better.
i like Angus but I wont be buying anymore as calves as they don’t leave as much profit as the blues when selling as stores
 

hendrebc

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Alot of the dairy bred Angus heifers would be very fat at 250kgs dead. The beef bred or Holstein do get to the 400kgs much better.
i like Angus but I wont be buying anymore as calves as they don’t leave as much profit as the blues when selling as stores
The bull I've bought a few years ago even though he is very well bred and was highly recommended by everyone i spoke to leaves stock that get too fat too light. They are very thrifty cattle though they look well all the time but are just small.
I'd be giving them away as stores but I'll he able to do something with them finishing them which was the plan anyway. Locked up with tb now anyway so will have to finish them.
I wouldn't keep anguses at all if I sold stores.
 

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