Contracting & Punctures

[Robert]

If you are contracting and pick up a puncture which has demonstrably been caused by e.g. metal picked up on their land, do you charge the repair back to the customer?!

 

[Clive]

Tricky one but if it's down to foreign object on their land that was in a area you have been asked to work over then I would say yes they (or their insurance ?) should pay

 

[yorkie]

if it is a set of chain harrows the wrong way up in a crop of grass being cut for hay all 4 flat tyres where payed for by the customer ,he was left as deflated as me

 

[nick...]

Allways used to charge puncures in wheel digger to customers.usually caused by lazy carpenters not picking up their nails.bit differant for farmers though but depends on the situation
Nick...

 

[james ds]

I cut a tyre doing the first round mowing , I drove over a half a 40 gallon steel barrell , I had to get it vulcanised and I charged the farmer the cost.

 

[Grassman]

Basically you are getting paid to do a job. If a foreign object that wouldn't and shouldn't normally be there causes damage to your machine then it's not you fault.
However it gets messy with say ploughing and you hit a large tree root or rock and bend the plough. Or mowing and hit a raised manhole that was hidden in grass. So difficult to apportion blame in some cases.

 

[ollie989898]

What about stones going up choppers?

 

[Mursal]

What about them .............
Stone insurance surely?

 

[james ds]

What about stones going up choppers?

Choppers are made for grass , rock crushers are made for stones , don't mix them , farmers fault , he pays 100%.

 

[JMTHORNLEY]

Basically you are getting paid to do a job. If a foreign object that wouldn't and shouldn't normally be there causes damage to your machine then it's not you fault.
However it gets messy with say ploughing and you hit a large tree root or rock and bend the plough. Or mowing and hit a raised manhole that was hidden in grass. So difficult to apportion blame in some cases.

I'd never dream of allowing a contractor into a block of land I knew there were manholes that were not marked out. We have loads of traffic cones in the corner of a barn because of this, we mow our own stuff now and I still go and mark them out for myself. Good of you to think like that @Grassman but if you hit one on my ground I'd except full responsibility and insurance would cover

 

[James]

Tricky one but if it's down to foreign object on their land that was in a area you have been asked to work over then I would say yes they (or their insurance ?) should pay

Exactly this!

 

[bez]

I'd never dream of allowing a contractor into a block of land I knew there were manholes that were not marked out. We have loads of traffic cones in the corner of a barn because of this, we mow our own stuff now and I still go and mark them out for myself. Good of you to think like that @Grassman but if you hit one on my ground I'd except full responsibility and insurance would cover

I think you might be in the minority on this, but good to know there are still decent people out there.

 

[Speedstar]

Choppers are made for grass , rock crushers are made for stones , don't mix them , farmers fault , he pays 100%.

Rock Stopper !! are what is need if there are stones about, We have them in stock

 

[mogman]

Rock Stopper !! are what is need if there are stones about, We have them in stock

What’s a rock stopper @Speedstar and how does it work, a metal detector for metal but stones

 

[Speedstar]

What’s a rock stopper @Speedstar and how does it work, a metal detector for metal but stones[/QUOT

Yes some thing like that take a look here http://www.rockstopper.com/

 

[james ds]

Rock Stopper !! are what is need if there are stones about, We have them in stock

I'd say they are a good job , is insurance any cheaper if you have it fitted , I think it should be.

 

[davieh3350]

if it is a set of chain harrows the wrong way up in a crop of grass being cut for hay all 4 flat tyres where payed for by the customer ,he was left as deflated as me

Fortunately, the old farmer up the road remembered about the railway line and harrows used for knocking down mole hills.... Just as I was about to hit them.

 

[raiderz]

Not exactly a puncture but who pays for this? Whilst hedge cutting this BT access cover gave way, steel frame on the cover rotten as hell, I've driven over the same cover each year for 25 years or so with no problem. Council don't want anything to do with it (as really its not their problem), BT want me to pay for it as I was negligent. I would say BT were as much negligent by not maintaining their plant. It's marked as GPO so it will be at least 48 years old.

 

[Pheasant Surprise]

Not exactly a puncture but who pays for this? Whilst hedge cutting this BT access cover gave way, steel frame on the cover rotten as hell, I've driven over the same cover each year for 25 years or so with no problem. Council don't want anything to do with it (as really its not their problem), BT want me to pay for it as I was negligent. I would say BT were as much negligent by not maintaining their plant. It's marked as GPO so it will be at least 48 years old.

Your public liability insurance. Hope it’s all coned off etc, you don’t want some smartarse putting in for a personal injury claim.

 

[mushnt grummmble]

I'd say they are a good job , is insurance any cheaper if you have it fitted , I think it should be.

Rock Stopper !! are what is need if there are stones about, We have them in stock

only problem i see with that is if the lazy farmer knows you have a rockstopper they will be less likely to roll or g.a.f