Countryfile tonight

[BrianV]

The Ancient Romans ate from lead dishes which poisoned them.
White lead in make up poisoned the wearer.

Lead water pipes are only safe when water flows regularly, and doesn't accumulate lead from the pipe. We always run the tap for several minutes before drawing drinking water, and never drink the bathwater.

Think you might mean drink from the bath tap, it would take a very brave man with a possible death wish to drink from our bath water!

 

[Wilksy]

The Ancient Romans ate from lead dishes which poisoned them.
White lead in make up poisoned the wearer.

Lead water pipes are only safe when water flows regularly, and doesn't accumulate lead from the pipe. We always run the tap for several minutes before drawing drinking water, and never drink the bathwater.

I guess the pipes are furred up with limescale as well, you can seen how the make up would be bad as it isn’t passing through you, burning off a old paint with lead in that also not good

 

[primmiemoo]

I guess the pipes are furred up with limescale as well, you can seen how the make up would be bad as it isn’t passing through you, burning off a old paint with lead in that also not good

Never burn off old lead paint!

 

[Bury the Trash]

Lead ingestion can be a contributing factor to Dementia.
replace them lead water pipes with polyethylene, then copper its not difficult , all pipe laying (and plumbing ) can be done by an amateur diy person easily.

infact i should think there would be a grant for work like that ?

 

[Wilksy]

Lead ingestion can be a contributing factor to Dementia.
replace them lead water pipes with polyethylene, then copper its not difficult , all pipe laying (and plumbing ) can be done by an amateur diy person easily.

infact i should think there would be a grant for work like that ?

Everything after the stop tap is copper and plastic but lead back to the road it would be a right ball ache, I’ve enquired about a meter and Yorkshire water aren’t interested so they can’t think it’s worth it,

 

[Bury the Trash]

lots of things in life are a ball ache, one of the things we had (or decided) to do here was put in 1500 metres or so of new main ( old one was in poor condition and went on others land) so i dug it in myself, just leave the joins open for the water board bloke to inspect,before backfilling.
also increased the size from old 1/2 inch to 32 mm was one of the best thing we ever did , increased pressure uphill and gave us independance over the route it took.
cost money we didnt have at the time but has proved a worthwhile investment nonetheless, cant beat having a good water supply, ask them in Africa

sometimes youve got to bite the bullet

 

[Wilksy]

to do ours would involve three other houses and digging up the footpath, and that’s simplifying the situation, it’s way beyond my skills and my control, I won’t won’t be biting any bullets

 

[Cab-over Pete]

I certainly wouldn’t if they were lead bullets.

 

[Treecreeper]

I should probably be more concerned. We eat Pheasant/Partridge shot with lead at least once a week all year around.
I’m not fully convinced on the ballistics of steel shot versus lead at the moment and am also unsure about suitability in my guns.

If you have a newish shotgun it will be proof marked with a fleur de lys showing suitability for steel. If you use granfers old side by side not.

 

[britt]

If you have a newish shotgun it will be proof marked with a fleur de lys showing suitability for steel. If you use granfers old side by side not.

Cartridges are being developed with a sleeve around the steel shot so that they can be used in older guns.
All of the ballistics work so far seems to suggest that if you go up 2 shot sizes steel is just as lethal as lead.

 

[An Gof]

The Ancient Romans ate from lead dishes which poisoned them.
White lead in make up poisoned the wearer.

Lead water pipes are only safe when water flows regularly, and doesn't accumulate lead from the pipe. We always run the tap for several minutes before drawing drinking water, and never drink the bathwater.

 

[ajcc]

Cartridges are being developed with a sleeve around the steel shot so that they can be used in older guns.
All of the ballistics work so far seems to suggest that if you go up 2 shot sizes steel is just as lethal as lead.

Pattern fails long before pellet energy so you now will need full choke both barrels to retain pattern but steel is recommended not to be shot through tighter than half choke......is there a plastic substitute biodegradable wad that works well?
Ime lead shot will not be substituted until the global cartridge market agrees same as most “green enviro. anomalies.

 

[Pennine Ploughing]

Everything after the stop tap is copper and plastic but lead back to the road it would be a right ball ache, I’ve enquired about a meter and Yorkshire water aren’t interested so they can’t think it’s worth it,

I have just had this Problem, see my other thread about putting pipe under concrete without digging it up.
Just get it sort now, get old lead pipe done away with, best all round for everyone

 

[Bury the Trash]

Lead is not allowed for shooting ducks or geese, over SSSIs or on the foreshore. So there is very little opportunity for lead to fall where ducks and geese can pick it up. The vast majority of lead picked up by them is from before the ban.
Where is lead mined from ? Out of the ground, where it falls to when shot.
Yes lead is toxic, but this needs to be kept in perspective. So is arsenic and warfarin, but used at the right way are also medicines.

The perspective is that its (lead) 'injected' into food, then sold on the food market Knowingly and freely.
the bit about Waitrose highlighted that actual fact as it was in a bird and they didnt even know about it ,if a farmer had supplied meat with similar 'admixture '(or something more likely less inert like a mouse turd ) all hell would break loose.

Arsenic and Warfarin aren't added to meat,lol. at all ( as far as i know ) and on the contrary even CCA treatment of fencing posts is banned so why the double standards ? why the one rule for one and not for the other ??

 

[Wuffler]

This is worthy of a repost, seeing as it's Christmas.
From harvest 2020 and it still makes me laugh.

 

[renewablejohn]

Everything after the stop tap is copper and plastic but lead back to the road it would be a right ball ache, I’ve enquired about a meter and Yorkshire water aren’t interested so they can’t think it’s worth it,

The farmhouse has approx 50 mtrs of lead pipe upto the farmhouse fortunately identified on our searches so immediately went onto spring water instead. Family who we bought the farm off moved into the barn next door that they had converted and kept using the mains supply without our knowledge until we told the water board where they could stick their bill. By this time there youngest son in his early twenties has signs of motor neuron disease and died by the age of 30. Now looks like a mis diagnosis as symptons of lead poisioning are very similar.

 

[Tractorstant]

I found it very informative, especially the info about Bobble Hats! Cheers, Adam.

Thank god there are no serious topics that need addressing in farming.

 

[7610 super q]

I loved John Craven's attempt at humour. Pretending to pull out a ferocious animal from a cage with welding gloves on.......... and it's the Countryfile calendar. Oh the hilarity.

 

[Red Fred]

The Ancient Romans ate from lead dishes which poisoned them.
White lead in make up poisoned the wearer.

Lead water pipes are only safe when water flows regularly, and doesn't accumulate lead from the pipe. We always run the tap for several minutes before drawing drinking water, and never drink the bathwater.

I was reading Michael Palin's excellent book about Franklin's expedition to find the NW passage in 1845, and they reckon the lead solder from the early food cans seeped into the food and poisoned them or drove them mad.
One of the problems with being a metal detector user on a former shooting and fishing estate is the huge volume of non ferrous metal in the soil. Our river banks by the Hampshire Avon are packed full of lead fishing weights and brass shotgun cartridge ends from years ago, to the point where some areas are no-go zones. Their is also a huge amount of old lead in the arable fields as it was used everywhere for repairs and roofs, etc due to its low melting point. While it is buried, it isn't hurting but a lot of weights end up in the river as the banks erode and can be found on the gravel shoals. It can be really nasty if it has gone powdery and oxidised.

 

[Barleycorn]

I found it very informative, especially the info about Bobble Hats! Cheers, Adam.

Thank god there are no serious topics that need addressing in farming.



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I saw that they are making the first bobble hat out of one of Adams fleeces. I bet the rest will be nylon made in China!