Countryfile tonight

[ringi]

Presumably you need some kind of planning permission for building big poultry units, complete with plans how you intend to deal with the ‘fertiliser’ which will be created?

I think part of the issue is that planning precedents from other local big poultry units can be used to win planning appeals regardless of already having too much of the ‘fertiliser’ being produced in an area. When the ‘fertiliser’ becomes very cheap is it likely to be used with less care.

 

[BrianV]

I think part of the issue is that planning precedents from other local big poultry units can be used to win planning appeals regardless of already having too much of the ‘fertiliser’ being produced in an area. When the ‘fertiliser’ becomes very cheap is it likely to be used with less care.

Isn't the answer that if they can prove it's coming from the chicken farms then prosecute as they should do for every sewage outfall that pollutes.
The government doesn't want to know as they know damm well their obsession with building more & more houses around existing towns overwhelms the existing sewage systems, they should be building new towns & villages with their own new sewage systems.
Existing sewage units can never cope with ever heavier downpours of rain coming from ever more houses & drains.

 

[bluebell]

What is the "preoccupation" of populating the "farmed" countryside, with non "native" animals? the welsh university farm on last nights tv programme was advocating, lamas, for their "ability" to graze a certain "troublesum" grass" it was said, "oh the fleece" was "worth having"? no mention was made of meat, eating them? So does one just keep them for their fleece?

 

[Vader]

What is the "preoccupation" of populating the "farmed" countryside, with non "native" animals? the welsh university farm on last nights tv programme was advocating, lamas, for their "ability" to graze a certain "troublesum" grass" it was said, "oh the fleece" was "worth having"? no mention was made of meat, eating them? So does one just keep them for their fleece?

Diversification innit..
Gov loves ppl to diversify.
Got to change stuff to look important

 

[ringi]

Isn't the answer that if they can prove it's coming from the chicken farms then prosecute as they should do for every sewage outfall that pollutes

But it is not direct, it's so many people being given very good deals to take it.

 

[Humble Village Farmer]

Not sure about maize growing but having massive chicken units near to rivers seems to be asking for problems & an easy excuse to put the blame on all farmers.

I don't think they are blaming all farmers.

 

[Humble Village Farmer]

Presumably you need some kind of planning permission for building big poultry units, complete with plans how you intend to deal with the ‘fertiliser’ which will be created?

Wouldn't an environmental impact assessment be needed?

 

[ringi]

Wouldn't an environmental impact assessment be needed?

Yes, but the issues are not directly from any single poultry unit, they are from the total amount of poultry fertilizer being sold cheaply in the area.

A small runoff level from a farm that would normally not be an issue can destroy a river if many farms also have the same runoff from using the poultry fertilizer into the SAME river.

 

[ringi]

Diversification innit..
Gov loves ppl to diversify.
Got to change stuff to look important

This is a case of needing diversification of the areas with the poultry units so they are within reasonable transport distance of many more arable farms.

 

[Bury the Trash]

This is a case of needing diversification of the areas with the poultry units so they are within reasonable transport distance of many more arable farms.

That theroy is what we were taught at college ,like all the intensive poultry and pig units would be in the (South?) East not the West .

 

[Chasingmytail]

Admire doing the right thing but as a small business it arnt going to work. Shame the idea of export could of been the winning deal.

 

[7610 super q]

Vandalising perfectly healthy oak trees ? Really ? Ecologists
Imagine if farmers did that.

 

[Suffolk Serf]

Very good piece on soil biology.

 

[Hampton]

Have I honestly just watched conservation idiots attacking 60 year old oak trees to try to “age” them into 600 year old dead trees?
What’s going to replace the 60 year old oak trees after they die due to stress from saw and sledgehammer damage

 

[Hampton]

What’s the wagyu premium? Those cattle looked decent. Way better than the Angus crosses.
It’s a great story, but the only thing that a disagree with is that a Holstein cross wagyu will be paid a premium by an abattoir for “the story” whereas a fully pedigree native (Hereford, Lincoln, even Highland) won’t

 

[7610 super q]

Now they're pulling up oak saplings.....

 

[Hampton]

Now they're pulling up oak saplings.....

It beggars belief doesn’t it! I’ve not watched it for months, but can’t believe that they are allowed to do that

 

[7610 super q]

It beggars belief doesn’t it! I’ve not watched it for months, but can’t believe that they are allowed to do that

Wonder if they're the same saplings Ellie planted last week......

 

[Ramrod]

Worst bit is the fvcking idiots are getting paid to do it

 

[76masseyman]

He did have nice coloured nail varnish on though