- Location
- somerset
be fair, its good for horses, but not a lot else
Crimping Grain for dummies.
- Thread starter shumungus
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ollie989898
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Really? You would sooner combine at 30% than 20% grain moisture?
davidroberts30
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- Location
- pembrokeshire
I'd rather cut sub 20 than plus 30
ollie989898
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I'm confused, I thought you said damper grain was easier on the machine than drier?
davidroberts30
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- Location
- pembrokeshire
Well I meant it was harder
ollie989898
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Ok, that makes sense now!
If the combine can empty it's tank, then a crimper can handle it, mostly it's the combine is the weak link. Speak to the contractor with the crimper to see how they want it. And let him know when the combine is starting, not ring him with all grain ready to crimp on the yard, very annoying 
. Ideally if a biggish crimper you need 2 handlers. One can't cope loading and putting in clamp, unless a VERY good driver or a big machine. A normal size machine just can't cope.
A tractor and loader is ok on clamp.
. Ideally if a biggish crimper you need 2 handlers. One can't cope loading and putting in clamp, unless a VERY good driver or a big machine. A normal size machine just can't cope.A tractor and loader is ok on clamp.
If the combine can empty it's tank, then a crimper can handle it, mostly it's the combine is the weak link. Speak to the contractor with the crimper to see how they want it. And let him know when the combine is starting, not ring him with all grain ready to crimp on the yard, very annoying
A tractor and loader is ok on clamp.
Agreed, on 30%+ stuff the mill absolutely flys, 40+t/ hr on a korte 700. 20% you’re back down to 16-20t.
no wonder the crimping contractors prefer it wet
- Location
- Montgomeryshire
Consider Maxxamon/Alkagrain too.
Numerous threads on here covering it.Combine at 18-20%mc or so, mix product in, push in a heap and sheet for a fortnight, job done. End result is an alkaline (little risk of acidosis when feeding) feed at around 15% CP.
Do the rats like it ? Vermin seem to love wholecrop but not propcorn treated stuff we used for the cows years ago.Consider Maxxamon/Alkagrain too.
Combine at 18-20%mc or so, mix product in, push in a heap and sheet for a fortnight, job done. End result is an alkaline (little risk of acidosis when feeding) feed at around 15% CP.
- Location
- Montgomeryshire
They seem to leave it alone when it’s first treated & sheeted, as the makers claim. After the sheet has been off for a while and the gas has dissipated, they will eat it, but not as keen on it as untreated grain imo.
I’ve 3 or 4 ton still sat in the back of a big store from last Autumn with a cheap tarp over. The tarp is covered in holes now, where squirrels have taken a liking to it. I must have shot about 30 over the winter with an air rifle.
- Location
- somerset
the stuff we used for crimping maize -can't remember name, was completely unattractive to rats, one of my 'worries' about doing it, so wouldn't worry about that. We did r/bale some wholecrop, once, never again, vermin and birds, hit that at an unbelievable rate, we literally couldn't use it, and our neighbour, quick enough, they were shredding the plastic, in hours.
- Location
- Welshpool Powys
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ollie989898
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Consider Maxxamon/Alkagrain too.
Combine at 18-20%mc or so, mix product in, push in a heap and sheet for a fortnight, job done. End result is an alkaline (little risk of acidosis when feeding) feed at around 15% CP.
Alkagrain has a useful effect of buffering the rest of the diet, making it preferable to other methods IMO.
- Location
- South Lanarkshire
Used to crimp about 25 acres of spring barely a year cut myself with an old 1075 jd combine yes it’s sorer on the machine but you’ve got all day to do it don’t need to wait till it’s dry . Plus points are crop off earlier in season hopefully when the weather is better plus if defo feeds really well
- Location
- Welshpool Powys
Guess it could be useful in bg control as while most seed will have shed it gives another couple of weeks for a chit
- Location
- somerset
we have w wheat in the ground, we have been following maize, with hybrid rye, and last year, with vetches, to take of early, before planting another maize crop, giving us 30t/acre fresh weight, very good. However, last aut, our maize was not fit enough to cut, in time to plant rye, it needs to go in, in sept/early oct, hence wheat.
That has given us another problem, we would like to try w/wold grass with vetches, but with the earlier chance to plant, w/wold would probably need cutting, before winter, which would screw the vetch.
The wheat will probably be crimped, unless weather is good enough to combine/store, but nothing is ever straight forward. The reason for a change to w/wold, is simply because we have been completely unable, to get an analysis, of the rye/vetch, despite sending loads of samples off, - and no idea why we can't. Protein % varied from 4% to 48%, over 12/15 samples.
But crimping grain, opens up a vast new opportunity, for farmers to grow their own 'concentrate', without the hassle of trying to harvest, and store combined grain, its easy to dry combine wheat/barley, only if you have good access to a combine, otherwise a pain in the butte, cutting at 20/25% moisture, makes it easier to get a combine - you are not 'competing'.
we are lucky enough to have a crimping contractor geared up for it, local to us. There are large benefits from growing your own concentrates, with compound feeds north of £400/t.
That has given us another problem, we would like to try w/wold grass with vetches, but with the earlier chance to plant, w/wold would probably need cutting, before winter, which would screw the vetch.
The wheat will probably be crimped, unless weather is good enough to combine/store, but nothing is ever straight forward. The reason for a change to w/wold, is simply because we have been completely unable, to get an analysis, of the rye/vetch, despite sending loads of samples off, - and no idea why we can't. Protein % varied from 4% to 48%, over 12/15 samples.
But crimping grain, opens up a vast new opportunity, for farmers to grow their own 'concentrate', without the hassle of trying to harvest, and store combined grain, its easy to dry combine wheat/barley, only if you have good access to a combine, otherwise a pain in the butte, cutting at 20/25% moisture, makes it easier to get a combine - you are not 'competing'.
we are lucky enough to have a crimping contractor geared up for it, local to us. There are large benefits from growing your own concentrates, with compound feeds north of £400/t.