crossbred rams

[spark_28]

what do people think about this?

what is the big desire for texXBel? why not just texel?

seen a suffolk x BFL the other day. Be interesting when his lambs drop in the rain

 

[Greythundercloudys]

More size and better gigot, than an ordinary texel, if you see good ones you can't buy them, everyone wants them, including me.

 

[spark_28]

More size and better gigot, than an ordinary texel, if you see good ones you can't buy them, everyone wants them, including me.

all the time though?

is there not a possibility the lambs could take the worst of both breeds?

 

[M-J-G]

what do people think about this?

what is the big desire for texXBel? why not just texel?

seen a suffolk x BFL the other day. Be interesting when his lambs drop in the rain

Suffolk x BFL doesn't appeal to me, but inbred lines tend to cross out to be a lot tougher than they do pure.
Plenty of mule lambs are born in very poor weather in tough parts of the country.

I good mate crosses Texel and BFL and tells me they are pretty tough sheep.
He puts some crosses to a Char and says they cannot hack the weather as well as the BFL x Tex lambs

 

[Farmer_Joe]

ive a beltex cross texel, looks almost completely texel but smaller head, i bought it to use with gimmers as its a smaller head so easy lambers, that did work as they were easier to lamb and its produced some amazing lambs too, i would buy one again defiantly.

 

[Al R]

Been breeding cross breds for years. Charollais x Texel being my favourite and most popular.

 

[yellowbelly]

Been breeding cross breds for years.

Time to re-post a pic of the infamous Gingemong

 

[Farmer_Joe]

Been breeding cross breds for years. Charollais x Texel being my favourite and most popular.

I can imagine that been quite good we have a few char x texel ewes and there really well fleshed all the time

 

[neilo]

all the time though?

is there not a possibility the lambs could take the worst of both breeds?

Much as the relevant breed societies don’t like to admit it, the Beltex/Dutch Texel and the Texel are just different types within the same breed.
A cross of those two types will produce something that breeds more consistency than crossbreds involving less closely related breeds. Charollais x Beltex and Suffolk x Beltex are two common examples of where the ram may look good, but they could breed one, t’other, or somewhere in between ime.

 

[Al R]

Time to re-post a pic of the infamous Gingemong

This pair have served 190 ewes so far this year and havnt lost an ounce of condition or weight.
2 rams in the lower picture arn’t home bred.

 

[idgni]

Txl x Bfl on Suffolk chev ewes gives these as a result,
Lambed no problem with great vigor

Ewe lambs Pictured at just under a year and lambing along with their mothers,
Cracking ewe lambs and the ram lambs all we fat along with the rest , char and Suffolk and no difference in price .
I’m on The lookout For another one

 

[NZDan]

Suffolk x BFL doesn't appeal to me, but inbred lines tend to cross out to be a lot tougher than they do pure.
Plenty of mule lambs are born in very poor weather in tough parts of the country.

I good mate crosses Texel and BFL and tells me they are pretty tough sheep.
He puts some crosses to a Char and says they cannot hack the weather as well as the BFL x Tex lambs

I have a customer who uses BFLxSuff Rams over Shetland ewes, a bloody good cross.

 

[M-J-G]

I have a customer who uses BFLxSuff Rams over Shetland ewes, a bloody good cross.

I can imagine that would work.
I've seen BFL x Shetland ewes mated to a Texel and the lambs were very good.

 

[spark_28]

I have a customer who uses BFLxSuff Rams over Shetland ewes, a bloody good cross.

shetland though will be a massive factor in their hardiness surely though, bit like the Blackface in the mule.

 

[NZDan]

shetland though will be a massive factor in their hardiness surely though, bit like the Blackface in the mule.

He just uses the rams as Terminals,

 

[Skintagain]

He just uses the rams as Terminals,

Bfl will grow them out and get some size which they desperately need I suppose

 

[neilo]

Bfl will grow them out and get some size which they desperately need I suppose

They’d make for a cracking pen in the mart, sure to have everyone discussing them.

 

[Al R]

They’d make for a cracking pen in the mart, sure to have everyone discussing them.

What will the teeth be like at 4?

 

[Fendt516profi]

What will the teeth be like at 4?

If the rams used as a terminal I don't think your supposed to find out

 

[NZDan]

What will the teeth be like at 4?

I've also some customers who have bred Shetland X BFL Mules, while they are tremendous ewes the whether lambs are hard to finish. They now put a Texel on the Shetlands and the BFL on the TexelShetland and keep those Mules mated back to the Texel.
Ironically they all reckon the Shetland with a terminal over it is still the best combination.