Cultivation opinions

[H.Jackson]

Just reading about brown mustard suppressing slugs. Just wary that those with more experience regard mustard as the devils work?

 

[York]

Reckon linseed or linseed bean mix is of value as a cover crop ? It's all I have about right now

You got to get some grasses. Point is to build some fresh mycorrhiza.
Just think about how good the linseed is competitive to volunteer rape?

I wonder how fast I could get some mustard here - I hear slugs don't like it so maybe I could kill 2 birds with one stone ?

typical farmers approach. Must not be the best in the end.
Not bothered of the slugs tooo much as they will eat the volunteer rape and most likely not convert to gras eaters. with good cover the bugs are thriving and harvesting the slug eggs.

Every day delay of getting some proper in is a lost chance. I day in July is one week in August or the whole month of September in growth.
Day combine, night & early morning the drill = 24 h tractor usage. How my friend Lee will love this. !00% efficiency.
York-Th.

 

[Clive]

You got to get some grasses. Point is to build some fresh mycorrhiza.
Just think about how good the linseed is competitive to volunteer rape?

typical farmers approach. Must not be the best in the end.
Not bothered of the slugs tooo much as they will eat the volunteer rape and most likely not convert to gras eaters. with good cover the bugs are thriving and harvesting the slug eggs.

Every day delay of getting some proper in is a lost chance. I day in July is one week in August or the whole month of September in growth.
Day combine, night & early morning the drill = 24 h tractor usage. How my friend Lee will love this. !00% efficiency.
York-Th.

So in this situation what would be the cover mix you would drill York ?

 

[York]

So in this situation what would be the cover mix you would drill York ?

look, I don't need to be specific.
some good covering legume but predominately some grases. So, black oats, maybe some rye + vetch & peas (fodder) and sunflower.
We are not even starting that late. Our rape is already having some grases growing, to capture sunlight when pods have been set. So we only need to put into the green sward of gras some legumes & black oats.
One think I now "swallowed" / "inhaled" on the French BASE - US trip is that farmers are the largest Sun energy collectors. Each day a green plant could grow but isn't growing is a lost day.
Why lost day?
Very easy because our life as man kind is depending wholly on having collected carbon = Sun energy. So our job is the transformation of solar energy into carbon into food.
I think there is enough local expertise to come up with the appropriate strategy for each locality.
Furthermore there are enough around which will not do it, or even try it, because it will not be pencilling out right up front. So, I encourge every one to do a trial, just part of the field and do a year long comparison. Don't need to do it on large scale, just do a tiny bit so in the end you are feeling sorry that you didn't have more "bottom" in your pants to have done more.
York-Th.

 

[Dan Powell]

look, I don't need to be specific.
some good covering legume but predominately some grases. So, black oats, maybe some rye + vetch & peas (fodder) and sunflower.
We are not even starting that late. Our rape is already having some grases growing, to capture sunlight when pods have been set. So we only need to put into the green sward of gras some legumes & black oats.
One think I now "swallowed" / "inhaled" on the French BASE - US trip is that farmers are the largest Sun energy collectors. Each day a green plant could grow but isn't growing is a lost day.
Why lost day?
Very easy because our life as man kind is depending wholly on having collected carbon = Sun energy. So our job is the transformation of solar energy into carbon into food.
I think there is enough local expertise to come up with the appropriate strategy for each locality.
Furthermore there are enough around which will not do it, or even try it, because it will not be pencilling out right up front. So, I encourge every one to do a trial, just part of the field and do a year long comparison. Don't need to do it on large scale, just do a tiny bit so in the end you are feeling sorry that you didn't have more "bottom" in your pants to have done more.
York-Th.

Putting a grass in there is all very well, but makes weed control in the wheat more expensive. I put Pedders no.1 mix in last year between rape and wheat. Some oats survived glyphosate due to shading, and post-em crystal and finally had to be dealt with using yet another chemical whose name escapes me. I would not recommend it but I'm sure there are people doing it properly and having better results than me...

 

[T Hectares]

I have been trying this today after seeing @Badshot Doing the same in the past.
It makes use of existing kit and looks to have done a very good job at spreading trash and and helping to get a bg chit.

 

[Andrew K]

Putting a grass in there is all very well, but makes weed control in the wheat more expensive. I put Pedders no.1 mix in last year between rape and wheat. Some oats survived glyphosate due to shading, and post-em crystal and finally had to be dealt with using yet another chemical whose name escapes me. I would not recommend it but I'm sure there are people doing it properly and having better results than me...

Dan,
Not sure of what is in Pedders no 1 entirely but would aim to open up canopy with a split of herbicide,then finish it off with the remaining dose maybe two weeks later? Could add glypho with crystal if true Pre em maybe?