DD Mulika

[Andrew K]

Heres a couple of pics of some Mulika wheat put in direct after winter beans with a KV tineseeder 6th April this year.

Has had 180kg N , seedrate was 220kg/ha. One fungicide at GS 32 so far.No slug pellets!

 

[warksfarmer]

Blimin heck Andrew !! Looks good to me. Good job I've got some on order! Might want a bit more though ;-)

 

[Andrew K]

TBH, i am a bit worried about it going flat, so will look at a late PGR possibly.

This field is real Windsor series clay, very pleasing for that soil type as an autumn crop would be alive with blackgrass, even if it had survived the wet.An earlier sown field that got alot more rain/ snow on in March is not as good by far.Funnily enough we drilled the pictured field using Egnos, only just about satisfactory for drilling, a few gaps here and there.

I think alot of spring crops might outgun the autumn sown balls ups this year.Who knows?

 

[Daniel]

Looks good Andrew, here is our Mulika mauled into an appalling mess after sugarbeet, our first year with it, all things considered its looking good.

Just applying some N

 

[Andrew K]

I drilled about 4 acres with winter wheat seed at beginning of March, shouldnt have bothered!
Mulika looks altogether better.
What sort of drill did you use Daniel?

 

[Daniel]

With a box drill on a powerharrow combi, after ploughing, rather old school for this forum!

I'm amazed to be honest, the centre of the picture below had a Ropa harvester with a 20t tank stuck, a Fendt 936 and trailer stuck next to it and me stuck with a JD 6530, trying to unload the harvester so we could get it out. We both ended up tipping our loads where we stood, and I recovered them about a month later, It was a total balls up and by the time it had stopped raining a couple of weeks later it had 6 inches of water on it and I was out there with a mini digger digging trenches to get the water to a ditch.

Now on the surface at least there's no sign of the carnage:

 

[Andrew K]

I think you got a result there after a root crop really!

 

[part timer]

Heres a couple of pics of some Mulika wheat put in direct after winter beans with a KV tineseeder 6th April this year.

Has had 180kg N , seedrate was 220kg/ha. One fungicide at GS 32 so far.No slug pellets!

Looking very impressive. Wanting to try some fields drilled direct with our kv ts this year "weather permitting" did you use the standard Kv tine or the megant ? Did you set the drill up just the same as you would for a tilled field.

 

[Clive]

Here's my spring winter wheat ! Solstice Drilled early march, taken a week ago I'm treating it as a spring wheat re N and other inputs, has had a simple cheap fungicide and herbicide mix and its total 130kg N - target is 3t of milling spec

 

[Andrew K]

Looking very impressive. Wanting to try some fields drilled direct with our kv ts this year "weather permitting" did you use the standard Kv tine or the megant ? Did you set the drill up just the same as you would for a tilled field.

Used narrower reversible point like Badshot, they tend to penetrate better and boil up a bit more of a tilth than the latest point IMO.
Depth was set as deep as drill would go in, about 1.5 inches on our land. Rear harrow set aggressive to ensure seed covered.Dont think it would work in a dry spell, best with weathered soil or light fluffy land really.

 

[Andrew K]

Here's my spring winter wheat ! Solstice Drilled early march, taken a week ago I'm treating it as a spring wheat re N and other inputs, has had a simple cheap fungicide and herbicide mix and its total 130kg N - target is 3t of milling spec

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Looks good and hopefully vernalised ok.

 

[Clive]

Looks good and hopefully vernalised ok.

hope so ! it was a gamble at the time but it was very cold after with some hard frosts and snow if you recall for a couple of weeks

cant see why it shouldn't really

interesting thing is the flag leaf is much bigger than on my autumn drilled Soltice !!

 

[SilliamWhale]

Used narrower reversible point like Badshot, they tend to penetrate better and boil up a bit more of a tilth than the latest point IMO.
Depth was set as deep as drill would go in, about 1.5 inches on our land. Rear harrow set aggressive to ensure seed covered.Dont think it would work in a dry spell, best with weathered soil or light fluffy land really.

your drill will only go 1.5"? I'm surprised. Not that it needs to go much deeper though I suppose.

 

[part timer]

Used narrower reversible point like Badshot, they tend to penetrate better and boil up a bit more of a tilth than the latest point IMO.
Depth was set as deep as drill would go in, about 1.5 inches on our land. Rear harrow set aggressive to ensure seed covered.Dont think it would work in a dry spell, best with weathered soil or light fluffy land really.

Thanks I thought the standard reversible point would prob help to "pull" the drill into the soil. Did you notice if there was any significant difference in depth of seed say at a full hopper to that at a low hopper level? Was emergence even basically?
Sorry for all the questions

 

[Badshot]

Used narrower reversible point like Badshot, they tend to penetrate better and boil up a bit more of a tilth than the latest point IMO.
Depth was set as deep as drill would go in, about 1.5 inches on our land. Rear harrow set aggressive to ensure seed covered.Dont think it would work in a dry spell, best with weathered soil or light fluffy land really.

your drill will only go 1.5"? I'm surprised. Not that it needs to go much deeper though I suppose.

I'm very surprised it would only manage 1.5", my trouble is keeping the seed shallow enough really, no problem getting beans in 4 inches deep with it.

Looks good Andrew, it's amazing how fast spring wheat grows.

Thanks I thought the standard reversible point would prob help to "pull" the drill into the soil. Did you notice if there was any significant difference in depth of seed say at a full hopper to that at a low hopper level? Was emergence even basically?
Sorry for all the questions

Works well Part timer, there's a few videos of me on youtube doing last autumn's wheat, looks a picture now, except a bit of blackgrass It won't like hard dry ground though that's for sure.

 

[Andrew K]

Badshot,

The field concerned is a real tough bit of Windsor series clay, which is hard going at the best of times.
I had my depth wheels right up, points were about half worn, so i was happy with an average of 1.5 inches seed depth.I expect your modified coulter shoes help a bit?
On better soils it dives in, as you rightly say.
I am pleased with the result, your efforts last autumn gave me the confidence to try it. Spring drilling does wonders for the blackgrass as well!

 

[Badshot]

Badshot,

The field concerned is a real tough bit of Windsor series clay, which is hard going at the best of times.
I had my depth wheels right up, points were about half worn, so i was happy with an average of 1.5 inches seed depth.I expect your modified coulter shoes help a bit?
On better soils it dives in, as you rightly say.
I am pleased with the result, your efforts last autumn gave me the confidence to try it. Spring drilling does wonders for the blackgrass as well!

It was a case of dd or nothing last autumn, glad I did as the wheat looks good right now, even the bits I was far from happy with. Forums are likely to advance English agriculture faster than anything else as seeing someone succeed doing something is a bloody good reason to give it a go yourself. After all its not long ago I was asking to be given a good reason to buy a Claydon drill. Haven't got there yet but have been given the confidence to try with what I have got.

 

[Andrew K]

Thanks I thought the standard reversible point would prob help to "pull" the drill into the soil. Did you notice if there was any significant difference in depth of seed say at a full hopper to that at a low hopper level? Was emergence even basically?
Sorry for all the questions

No real difference with hopper level,emergence was good TBH.