Tonka
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- Location
- N Yorkshire
....and did you believe him?
Dead stock incineraton / options ?
- Thread starter Scotty
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This guy yes I did. He's streets ahead of anyone else and lost about 1.5% the year before. I'm not going to give you an example of a crap or average farm, am I?....and did you believe him?
He is probably not giving many old girls a second chance then; if he has a rigid 20% cull policy you would expect him to lose fewer ewes maybe.
Just saying that if somebody performs wildly off par, for good or bad, there is usually more to the story than meets the eye.
Just saying that if somebody performs wildly off par, for good or bad, there is usually more to the story than meets the eye.
Well I hope mine was dead, 'cos we boned her out and minced her.
Tonka
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- N Yorkshire
I'm sure you know which of your clients to believe, and which ones not - I just let them trip themselves up during our conversations!This guy yes I did. He's streets ahead of anyone else and lost about 1.5% the year before. I'm not going to give you an example of a crap or average farm, am I?
Lovegoodstock
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- Location
- Buckinghamshire
Its a very good point in my opinion. For example you buy a couple of good pens of shearlings @ 145, one has a prolapse pre lambing and it goes back fine and lambs fine. Some cull her, guess large majority don't, cull her in summer the trade isn't flying you may get say 80 back. She may die with a bad prolapse following year, she may go on fine, ok drugs, disposing, hassle, but a 65 pound hit, if you save 2/5 you are better off in the pocket even though your stats not so good?
- Location
- Montgomeryshire
This guy yes I did. He's streets ahead of anyone else and lost about 1.5% the year before. I'm not going to give you an example of a crap or average farm, am I?
Call me a cynic, but I find that very hard to believe. I don't doubt your account for a minute, but I'd be very suspicious of the record keeping that produced the figures. Even if he was clearing out as drafts as 4 yr olds or something similar, that loss rate is, quite frankly, unbelievable.
- Location
- Dumfries & Galloway
We can all do it, in a 1-off year. But I have my doubts anyone could do that as an average over 5 or 10 years.
I lost less than 1% one year... but iv gotten nowhere near it before, or since. My worst was 7% (but it may have been more - I got depressed and stopped counting)
MJT
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Hhmmm that amount does seem a tad too few . 3 from 600, when you add up all the ailments sheep can die from, without getting started on stupid self inflicted deaths....Going all the way through tuppinh lambing and weaning with only losing 3. I think if you put 600 dry sheep in a field and threw everything including the kitchen sink at them then you'd still be losing more than 3.Not doubting your account of it just wouldn't take much for someone to tweak figures ....
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- Location
- Montgomeryshire
What could be easier than ringing the knackerman? Cheaper options maybe, but simpler?
I chuck my deadstock in the same place each time, out of sight of footpaths and under a pallet, kick them a couple of times, then ring the knackerman on my mobile as I walk back down the yard grumbling. The regular guys all know where to collect them from, and leave the ticket nearby (if I don't see them about). I can't think of a simpler disposal method tbh.
£17 for a ewe collected here, or £100 for a Dolav box.
When the incinerator is only 15 mins away and I more often than not have the carcass in the back of the pickup because it's died away from the house. Do I drive home, lift it out and into the shed, to then phone the knackerman who says he'll pick it up sometime in the morning, next morning drag the carcass into the quad trailer to take it up to the drive entrance, to then leave it there until he turns up with all and sundry walking past.What could be easier than ringing the knackerman? Cheaper options maybe, but simpler?
I chuck my deadstock in the same place each time, out of sight of footpaths and under a pallet, kick them a couple of times, then ring the knackerman on my mobile as I walk back down the yard grumbling. The regular guys all know where to collect them from, and leave the ticket nearby (if I don't see them about). I can't think of a simpler disposal method tbh.
£17 for a ewe collected here, or £100 for a Dolav box.
My way, within 40 mins of finding it dead or is dealt with and for less than half the cost of the knackerman.
- Location
- Lancashire
You'll have to get it out of the stable firstI priced it up once for horses and it could have been quite ludicrous, but my Mrs pointed out to me that you have to be compassionate and understanding when dealing with people's dearly departed pets, which ruled me straight out
- Location
- Lancashire
Beat me to itSo does that include/account for removal of said dead horse from the stable? Think there is a good thread about it on here
Why not?!? Next you'll say they never get cancer or tumours.
I've had one die on boards, and another died but a few heavy thuds to the chest from the shearer got her going again.
- Location
- Cornwall
Pieces_of_Eight
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Adult sheep have a low feed value (usually lots of fat) and are labour intensive, so many just get skipped or incinerated whole at great expense. Cattle and horses are much better all round.
Adam@Rumen
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- Location
- Nantwich/Rishton
Hunt came through ours without permission a few years back, dropped them off some dead ewes to say thank you. Part of me wanted them to try and charge us...
- Location
- N.Lincs
Our hunt is very good - will take almost anything, although they don't pick up anymore. Maybe it helps that I hunted with them from being a nipper right up to the 'Blair ban'