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[DrWazzock]

Just to add they had actually sent me a letter saying I should install another landline to allow them to read their meter remotely all at my expense including ongoing line rental. Taking the pee of what? I was pretty incensed by that so had built up a fair head of steam by the time I rang the call centre.

 

[holwellcourtfarm]

Just to add they had actually sent me a letter saying I should install another landline to allow them to read their meter remotely all at my expense including ongoing line rental. Taking the pee of what? I was pretty incensed by that so had built up a fair head of steam by the time I rang the call centre.

It's all because they're under pressure from government to roll out "smart meters" and are trying to unload any difficulty onto you.

 

[Christoph1945]

Just to add they had actually sent me a letter saying I should install another landline to allow them to read their meter remotely all at my expense including ongoing line rental. Taking the pee of what? I was pretty incensed by that so had built up a fair head of steam by the time I rang the call centre.

Generally, if we are really pizzed off with a communication situation we first tell the individual that answers the phone that we are angry but not with them and we realise that the problem is not their fault but we 'do' want to reach a satisfactory solution to the ongoing problem; doesn't always work but it helps and is more likely to give the person on the other end of the line something of a better experience of our call.

I wonder if anger management studies would help reduce anxiety/depression but then I suppose that we first have to realise that we are angry and even justifiable anger needs to be expressed in a safe and controlled manner and not repressed, or suppressed.

 

[Christoph1945]

https://verywellmind.com/anger-management-strategies-4178870 makes for pretty good reading but may be old information for some seekers.

Some fifty, or so, years ago I realised that there was a link between anger and my potential for succumbing to chest infections but took me many years to realise the links between anger and anxiety/depression.

I do wonder if HRH The Duke of Edinburgh was so incandescent with anger at Megxit that it knocked his natural defences against infections and the rest is all history, as they say! Mind you, if someone hit over seventy years of my working life with a wrecking ball, I also would be very angry and suppose that I should get busy practicing anger management PDQ.

 

[BlueSupreme]

I'm not a highly educated person; nor am I particularly articulate but believe that anger has many shades and degrees to it's nature and a variety of words describe the different degrees of anger ......... anger, bitterness, resentment, hate, rage and a whole list of other words describe different shades of anger. There are times when we fear that we may express our anger we supress, or repress, it and it can bring on anxiety.

There are lots of agencies just waiting for folks to contact them and share their troubles, have you tried any talking therapy?

I have tried CBT before and it did help me with my anxiety. I’ve been doing pretty well for the past year or two up until about 6 months ago when I left my old job. I think it just set things off for me again, even good change can be hard to handle.
I am fortunate that my new job provides health insurance so I’ve arranged 10 sessions of therapy privately which will start in a week or two

 

[DrWazzock]

Generally, if we are really pizzed off with a communication situation we first tell the individual that answers the phone that we are angry but not with them and we realise that the problem is not their fault but we 'do' want to reach a satisfactory solution to the ongoing problem; doesn't always work but it helps and is more likely to give the person on the other end of the line something of a better experience of our call.

I wonder if anger management studies would help reduce anxiety/depression but then I suppose that we first have to realise that we are angry and even justifiable anger needs to be expressed in a safe and controlled manner and not repressed, or suppressed.

I did explain to the bloke that I wasn’t angry with him personally but at the corporate structure that sets up this kind of problem. He really pulled the stops out in the end and I thanked him for his help. He was as frustrated by the “system” and other colleagues who wouldn’t do their job as I was.

 

[Lili]

Just to add they had actually sent me a letter saying I should install another landline to allow them to read their meter remotely all at my expense including ongoing line rental. Taking the pee of what? I was pretty incensed by that so had built up a fair head of steam by the time I rang the call centre.

Email the CEO of the electricity company and the customer relations department and tell them exactly how you have been treated. Your complaint should hopefully get through to someone who has some authority.

 

[DrWazzock]

I have become a grumpy intolerant person but with margins so tight that silly mistakes or carelessness or too much time wasted can cost you your business I think it’s hardly surprising. Every second counts and getting it wrong or doing a half arsed job of it isn’t an option any more.

 

[Christoph1945]

I have become a grumpy intolerant person but with margins so tight that silly mistakes or carelessness or too much time wasted can cost you your business I think it’s hardly surprising. Every second counts and getting it wrong or doing a half arsed job of it isn’t an option any more.

I used to think that all farmers were grumpy but after spending over five years on TFF and learning a wee bit about farming and some of the modern pressures on farmers, at least I now understand why so many 'may' be grumpy.

 

[GrannyAching]

I have truly found my home! A community for whom the sentence "I'm not angry with you but I am really angry....." is a mantra.

I'm also getting really fed up with people who are using the pandemic as an excuse for being really bad at what they are doing as opposed to people who are really working hard and n truly difficult circumstances.

 

[Christoph1945]

I don't quite follow your second paragraph; would you care to enlighten me a little?

 

[GrannyAching]

I don't quite follow your second paragraph; would you care to enlighten me a little?

Ok. The pandemic has made life really hard for so many people and yet they and/or the businesses they work for have triumphed over that. In the last week I have received really bad service from a couple of big organisations, who, when called out on it have used the pandemic as legitimisation. It has made me really angry.

 

[Christoph1945]

Ok. The pandemic has made life really hard for so many people and yet they and/or the businesses they work for have triumphed over that. In the last week I have received really bad service from a couple of big organisations, who, when called out on it have used the pandemic as legitimisation. It has made me really angry.

Aaaah, I can see clearly now; a bit like that old excuse, it was the computer!

 

[GrannyAching]

Yes @Christoph but if the computer broke for a year you'd expect a big organisation to have a procedure in place to cover that eventuality. It's not that I'm necessarily angry for me. It's anger for the people who are already struggling, who aren't articulate (chopsy) and who don't have other people to share their frustration with so end up internalising.

 

[DrWazzock]

It’s the “I’ll ring you back” people who never do, who particularly annoy me. And as a farmer I’m not sat in the house or office all day so please don’t bother with the landline, use my mobile. But do they heck. And you end up with this list of ongoing unresolved problems that fester for years. We have actually given up on OpenReach. They can’t make the landline work at more than 0.25mb. If we didn’t have our own 4g hub at our own expense on our own initiative we’d be unable to participate in society. We have to struggle on with MeterPlus as we can’t manage without electricity. They are the worst most badly organised businesses I have ever encountered. The neglect of infrastructure in rural areas is appalling really and contributes to exclusion and isolation felt by many. We can’t export renewable energy because the transmission lives can’t handle it. And this in the Western world. It’s rubbish.

 

[BlueSupreme]

Ok. The pandemic has made life really hard for so many people and yet they and/or the businesses they work for have triumphed over that. In the last week I have received really bad service from a couple of big organisations, who, when called out on it have used the pandemic as legitimisation. It has made me really angry.

My last company I worked for used the pandemic as an excuse to not offer pay rises twice last year. They had just reported record breaking profits in excess of 50 million pound though...

 

[czechmate]

It’s the “I’ll ring you back” people who never do, who particularly annoy me. And as a farmer I’m not sat in the house or office all day so please don’t bother with the landline, use my mobile. But do they heck. And you end up with this list of ongoing unresolved problems that fester for years. We have actually given up on OpenReach. They can’t make the landline work at more than 0.25mb. If we didn’t have our own 4g hub at our own expense on our own initiative we’d be unable to participate in society. We have to struggle on with MeterPlus as we can’t manage without electricity. They are the worst most badly organised businesses I have ever encountered. The neglect of infrastructure in rural areas is appalling really and contributes to exclusion and isolation felt by many. We can’t export renewable energy because the transmission lives can’t handle it. And this in the Western world. It’s rubbish.

I won’t tolerate people who don’t call back when they say they will, or more generally people who don’t do what they say they will (therefore I never push people into making promises- unlike what my dad used to do all the time), which is largely the reason I’ve ended up with a deutz, as that dealer have always done what they said they would

 

[holwellcourtfarm]

I read a quote yesterday that made me think of this thread:

There is a pervasive form of contemporary violence to which the idealist most easily succumbs: activism and overwork. The rush and pressure of modern life are a form, perhaps the most common form, of it's innate violence. To allow oneself to be carried away by a multitude of conflicting concerns, to surrender to too many demands, to commit oneself to too many projects, to want to help everyone in everything, is to succumb to violence. The frenzy of our activism neutralizes our work for peace. It destroys our own inner capacity for peace. It destroys the fruitfulness of our own work, because it kills the root of inner wisdom which makes work fruitful.

Thomas Merton, Conjectures of a bystander.

 

[BlueSupreme]

It’s been quiet on here this week. Hope you’re all doing well

 

[Christoph1945]

It’s been quiet on here this week. Hope you’re all doing well

Most are still around on other threads and appear to be doing fine.

Me, I pent a couple of hours in a local hospital and agreed to having cataracts removed from both eyes and having holes drilled in both my eye balls and stents fitted.

Also discovered that both my strength and memory are fading with equal speed. Most folks hate growing old but when you point out the alternative they tend to buck up a wee bit.

Psychologically ...... providing that I continue to avoid aspartame, wheat, gluten, alcohol, and caffeine, I'm in quite an amicable relationship with the rest of the world and getting bye.

PS ..... how are things going for your self?