Divining

br jones

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It's bunkum of course (just like homeopathy and accupuncture), not one single scientic study has shown it works. Detailed experiments conducted in Germany in the 1980s showed that the dowsers tested weren’t locating water at levels better than random chance. But people like to believe ths nonsense (just like believing in a particular god).

Found a water pipe last week using divining ,never been on the ground before ,i was told it was in a area of around 50 ft ,first hole bingo ,but it is bunkum
 

Pan mixer

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Near Colchester
Works almost every time for me and most others who have tried it here over known pipes (only I knew though). Only consistent failure was a chap of, shall we say, Afro-Caribbean descent, who could get no reaction at all.

Quite a good thing for kids parties I have found.
 

farmerm

Member
Location
Shropshire
ground so wet around here at the moment I think I could probably fly like a helicopter if I went out with aerofoil shaped rods :unsure:

Divining is complete nonsense, I don't believe in it for one moment, yet it works for me! :scratchhead: Unexplained is just science we have yet to discover... Any one else already thought that the answer to this phenomenon lies in quantum mechanics or is this my apple hitting falling from the tree, Einstein, moment of discovery? (y)
 

Paddington

Member
Location
Soggy Shropshire
I once read that dowsing is like tracking a wild animal, everyone can "read" a piece of ground to some extent but some can do it far better than others. An African bushman or Australian aborigine tracking an animal is a regular activity and they can do it almost sub consciously.
Are there any TFF's who have experience in dowsing for a water supply ? @Farmer Roy ?
 

melted welly

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Arable Farmer
Location
DD9.
An old chap found where to sink our borehole here about 25yr ago. He used willow. He gave me a shot and it didn’t work, he then held the stick at the same time as me and walked towards his mark and it came up with an unbelievable force, more so than I believe a frail man in his mid 70s could muster.

Diving is weird. Wife takes her bits of bent wire on family walks now. We stopped off at some standing stones in the summer and when she walked round the outer of the ring of stones, the rods crossed on what would be the line between the stones and an Iron Age hill fort, and also roughly on what would be a line to another set of stones, going by our very amateurish navigation.
 

tepapa

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Livestock Farmer
Location
North Wales
I can't find underground water for a bore hole but then I've never looked.
I Can find water pipes and drains with water in.

It must be a magnetic field or similar which can be picked up by anntenas (deving rods). Shouldn't be to hard to believe. We accept there is an electrical field around electric
 

som farmer

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
somerset
should perhaps added, where our diviner said to drill, there was a plague village in the field, and when we had an archeology dig in the field, within feet, the oldies had dug down to water, you could see the steps down, where they had supported the bank with timber, really interesting, shows divining may well be an ancient art.
 

renewablejohn

Member
Location
lancs
ground so wet around here at the moment I think I could probably fly like a helicopter if I went out with aerofoil shaped rods :unsure:

Divining is complete nonsense, I don't believe in it for one moment, yet it works for me! :scratchhead: Unexplained is just science we have yet to discover... Any one else already thought that the answer to this phenomenon lies in quantum mechanics or is this my apple hitting falling from the tree, Einstein, moment of discovery? (y)

Nothing mystical about it. Its just a part of science that is obsure and very little use to people at the moment but if your into the science of Dipoles it makes absolute sense.
 

farmerm

Member
Location
Shropshire
I'd say approximately half the population could dowse with wires, if they had a go. I have no idea how it works, but it undoubtedly does. I thought it was a load of cobblers until at my old chap's suggestion, I had a go when previously unsuccessfully trying to find a water pipe. The wires crossed directly over it and I had it uncovered in moments. My Dad couldn't do it, but my Mum could, my one daughter can do it, but the other can't, the former Mrs Bt couldn't, but the present one can.
I suspect it is to do with some kind of magnetic force, but it is definitely not straightforward. It doesn't work if I wear gloves, but it does work if I put the wires ( which can be ferrous or not) in some kind of holder as suggested above, or obviously with skin contact. It works on drains, running or not, water pipes, running or not either. Also electric cables either above or below. Never knowingly tried a ley line though @melted welly
Am off to read up on Dipoles now!
 

melted welly

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Arable Farmer
Location
DD9.
I'd say approximately half the population could dowse with wires, if they had a go. I have no idea how it works, but it undoubtedly does. I thought it was a load of cobblers until at my old chap's suggestion, I had a go when previously unsuccessfully trying to find a water pipe. The wires crossed directly over it and I had it uncovered in moments. My Dad couldn't do it, but my Mum could, my one daughter can do it, but the other can't, the former Mrs Bt couldn't, but the present one can.
I suspect it is to do with some kind of magnetic force, but it is definitely not straightforward. It doesn't work if I wear gloves, but it does work if I put the wires ( which can be ferrous or not) in some kind of holder as suggested above, or obviously with skin contact. It works on drains, running or not, water pipes, running or not either. Also electric cables either above or below. Never knowingly tried a ley line though @melted welly
Am off to read up on Dipoles now!

it’s even weirder than leylines........

one night when the kids were in bed, we were in the house and there’s stones with cup marks built into the walls, so we tried the divining rods and they crossed in line with the cup marked stones. Things then progressed to asking basic questions as per some book my wife had read, and allocating a yes/no, good/bad type answer to a particular wire (left/right). Long story short, it’s weird, it’s a bit scary, one wire followed me round the room and we’ve not done it again!
 

renewablejohn

Member
Location
lancs
Ah, interesting. This research paper below concurs with the Dipol theory, though I would say it is wrong to state water can not be detected...


Think what they mean about water is that its the coduit for the dipole to work. They use it a lot in Norway for tunneling and its linked with resitivity analysis. There also a bit more sophisticated in Norway then a couple of bent welding rods but its still using dipoles
 

multi power

Member
Location
pembrokeshire
It's bunkum of course (just like homeopathy and accupuncture), not one single scientic study has shown it works. Detailed experiments conducted in Germany in the 1980s showed that the dowsers tested weren’t locating water at levels better than random chance. But people like to believe ths nonsense (just like believing in a particular god).

You are talking total crap
Just because you can't do something doesn't mean it is not true
 

multi power

Member
Location
pembrokeshire
Update. Got my heavy gauge copper wire and whittled the rods. Tested over a known water pipe supplying a field trough and bugger me if they didn't cross over. Unfortunately my initial excitement was tempered when I walked back over it and nothing happened. Tried a different known pipe and they did twitch but not cross.
Anyways, my son back from uni for the weekend, who had never heard of divining tried it and every time it worked for him. So off to the field to try. Found the line of the pipe from several "crossings" too much in line to not be right. And a rambler wandered over to watch as he had done some divining in the past with an ash twig in a Y shape. He said it pulls down to the ground when over water, but asked to try our copper rods - and they crossed same place as my sons had! I could barely believe it.
So we dug and dug and dug until we ran out of digger - 5 foot. No pipe. WTF. Who would bury water pipe that deep?
Light failed us so we need to get a bit lower another day. I'm convinced its there !
I did an Ag science degree at uni and was sceptical to say the least, but having seen two people get the same result has me on the verge of being a true believer. Just need to prove it yet. ?
Just be aware that not everyone can devine, also there may not be enough water in a pipe
I seen someone do it many years ago, he told me to try, I couldn't, he then put his hand on my shoulder and I was able to do it
 

renewablejohn

Member
Location
lancs
Just be aware that not everyone can devine, also there may not be enough water in a pipe
I seen someone do it many years ago, he told me to try, I couldn't, he then put his hand on my shoulder and I was able to do it

I was always called sparky at school as in the physics lab I could hold a cable in each hand and it would show as a current on an oscilloscope. Whether it has anything to do with divining I have no idea but I can do it so it may have something to do with this charge.
 

som farmer

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Livestock Farmer
Location
somerset
I was always called sparky at school as in the physics lab I could hold a cable in each hand and it would show as a current on an oscilloscope. Whether it has anything to do with divining I have no idea but I can do it so it may have something to do with this charge.
some people can hold a electric fence with a mains fencer, you probably are eligible to join the weird and wonderful group. Joking aside, have you tried divining ? just wondering if people who are, 'conductive' of one, are conductive of the other.
 

renewablejohn

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Location
lancs
some people can hold a electric fence with a mains fencer, you probably are eligible to join the weird and wonderful group. Joking aside, have you tried divining ? just wondering if people who are, 'conductive' of one, are conductive of the other.

No I am not in the electric fencer club even with wellies on I still get a kick. As for divining thats the point I was trying to make I use it on a regular basis for finding field drains so wondered whether it was something to do with being able to hold a charge. It may explain why touching someone who cannot do it may transfer this charge enabling them to do it.
 
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Paddington

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Location
Soggy Shropshire
Friends asked me to find a leaking drain under a lawn. Wasn't much of a challenge, I found a old clay drain in a couple of minutes, but it was an old dry drain, so not what they were looking for. Male friend tried the rods - nothing, his OH wanted to have a try and asked what I thought of when dowsing ? Well, nothing, really, but I gave some guff about being in contact with mother earth, feeling the power...Well, blow me, after a short while the rods started to move violently from side to side and crossing over before spinning round. I could see her hands weren't gripping the rods, she gave a shriek and vanished into the house. We had found the drain.
 

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