Docks

[Kevtherev]

Go in with an einbock and do field aggressive both ways to seriously check docks.
(No one believes me on here)

 

[Happy]

Go in with an einbock and do field aggressive both ways to seriously check docks.
(No one believes me on here)

No issues with disturbing and activating seeds in the ground doing that?

 

[davidroberts30]

Noticed here this year that the more docks are cut the easier they die
I sprayed 50odd acre after 1st cut and 1 field the sheep didn't get to in the spring ,big strong docks at first cut and a few are regrowing even tho it looked like I had a 100% kill
Other fields then that had been grazed later in spring had a good kill of docks

Think from now on I'll spray after 2nd cut to really deplete the root reserves before spraying

 

[Derrick Hughes]

Used gal-gone (fluroxypr) over the past few years....seems to work ok. I had a real dock infested field next to the house...sprayed it one evening 3 years ago...did a great job.... Very clean even now. Timing and water rates I find are the key

That's what I used .lot cheaper than Dockstar

 

[nails]

Same field .the picture show a patch missed by the sprayer .seems we had 100% kill View attachment 815604View attachment 815606

Not much bottom in that ley. Did the spray check it?

 

[Chris F]

Seen quite a few fluroxypyr's mentioned. We have a tool in the office to look these up. These are all the products that are straight fluroxypyr, note the different strengths - thought it might be helpful:

Arbiter 18326 Barclay Chemicals (R & D) Limited Barclay Chemicals Manufacturing Limited 200.000 g / l fluroxypyr
Awac 17501 GLOBACHEM nv GLOBACHEM nv 200.000 g / l fluroxypyr
Casino 17592 Mitsui AgriScience International S.A./N.V. Certis 200.000 g / l fluroxypyr
Clean Crop Gallifrey 200 17503 GLOBACHEM nv GLOBACHEM nv 200.000 g / l fluroxypyr
Cleancrop Gallifrey 3 17399 Dow AgroSciences Limited Dow AgroSciences Limited 333.000 g / l fluroxypyr
Crescent 17589 Mitsui AgriScience International S.A./N.V. Certis 200.000 g / l fluroxypyr
Flurostar 200 17438 GLOBACHEM nv GLOBACHEM nv 200.000 g / l fluroxypyr
GAL-GONE 17505 GLOBACHEM nv GLOBACHEM nv 200.000 g / l fluroxypyr
GF-1784 16850 Dow AgroSciences Limited Dow AgroSciences Limited 333.000 g / l fluroxypyr
Hatchet Xtra 17593 Mitsui AgriScience International S.A./N.V. Certis 200.000 g / l fluroxypyr
Hudson 200 17749 Barclay Chemicals (R & D) Limited Barclay Chemicals Manufacturing Limited 200.000 g / l fluroxypyr
Hurler 17715 Barclay Chemicals (R & D) Limited Barclay Chemicals Manufacturing Limited 200.000 g / l fluroxypyr
HYFLUX GB 19015 UPL Europe Ltd Hygeia Chemicals Limited 200.000 g / l fluroxypyr
Minstrel 13745 UPL Europe Ltd UPL Europe Ltd 200.000 g / l fluroxypyr
Starane Hi-Load HL 16557 Dow AgroSciences Limited Dow AgroSciences Limited 333.000 g / l fluroxypyr
Taipan 17063 Agro Trade GmbH Agro Trade GmbH 200.000 g / l fluroxypyr
Tandus 18071 Nufarm UK Limited Nufarm UK Limited 200.000 g / l fluroxypyr
Tomahawk 2 17468 Adama Agricultural Solutions UK Ltd Adama Agricultural Solutions UK Ltd 200.000 g / l fluroxypyr
Toska EC 17709 Nuvaros IP Ltd Novastar Link Limited 199.820 g / l fluroxypyr
Tumu 19032 TerreChem Limited TerreChem Limited 199.820 g / l fluroxypyr

 

[milkloss]

Seen quite a few fluroxypyr's mentioned. We have a tool in the office to look these up. These are all the products that are straight fluroxypyr, note the different strengths - thought it might be helpful:

Arbiter 18326 Barclay Chemicals (R & D) Limited Barclay Chemicals Manufacturing Limited 200.000 g / l fluroxypyr
Awac 17501 GLOBACHEM nv GLOBACHEM nv 200.000 g / l fluroxypyr
Casino 17592 Mitsui AgriScience International S.A./N.V. Certis 200.000 g / l fluroxypyr
Clean Crop Gallifrey 200 17503 GLOBACHEM nv GLOBACHEM nv 200.000 g / l fluroxypyr
Cleancrop Gallifrey 3 17399 Dow AgroSciences Limited Dow AgroSciences Limited 333.000 g / l fluroxypyr
Crescent 17589 Mitsui AgriScience International S.A./N.V. Certis 200.000 g / l fluroxypyr
Flurostar 200 17438 GLOBACHEM nv GLOBACHEM nv 200.000 g / l fluroxypyr
GAL-GONE 17505 GLOBACHEM nv GLOBACHEM nv 200.000 g / l fluroxypyr
GF-1784 16850 Dow AgroSciences Limited Dow AgroSciences Limited 333.000 g / l fluroxypyr
Hatchet Xtra 17593 Mitsui AgriScience International S.A./N.V. Certis 200.000 g / l fluroxypyr
Hudson 200 17749 Barclay Chemicals (R & D) Limited Barclay Chemicals Manufacturing Limited 200.000 g / l fluroxypyr
Hurler 17715 Barclay Chemicals (R & D) Limited Barclay Chemicals Manufacturing Limited 200.000 g / l fluroxypyr
HYFLUX GB 19015 UPL Europe Ltd Hygeia Chemicals Limited 200.000 g / l fluroxypyr
Minstrel 13745 UPL Europe Ltd UPL Europe Ltd 200.000 g / l fluroxypyr
Starane Hi-Load HL 16557 Dow AgroSciences Limited Dow AgroSciences Limited 333.000 g / l fluroxypyr
Taipan 17063 Agro Trade GmbH Agro Trade GmbH 200.000 g / l fluroxypyr
Tandus 18071 Nufarm UK Limited Nufarm UK Limited 200.000 g / l fluroxypyr
Tomahawk 2 17468 Adama Agricultural Solutions UK Ltd Adama Agricultural Solutions UK Ltd 200.000 g / l fluroxypyr
Toska EC 17709 Nuvaros IP Ltd Novastar Link Limited 199.820 g / l fluroxypyr
Tumu 19032 TerreChem Limited TerreChem Limited 199.820 g / l fluroxypyr

All good. The interesting part is which one works out the cheapest, dare you to post it next

 

[Chris F]

All good. The interesting part is which one works out the cheapest, dare you to post it next

Of course.

Starane Hi-load works out the cheapest from what I have seen this year. We have an ok price on it, a couple of farmers have said it can be got for under £130 - but from un-named sources:

We have Starane Hi-load at £139 per 10l - https://www.marketplace.farm/inputs/pesticides/starane-hi-load-hl-10l-333g-fluroxypyr/
and Hurler at £56 per 5l - https://www.marketplace.farm/inputs/pesticides/herbicides/hurler-5l-l-fluroxypyr/

https://www.marketplace.farm/?subca...ecurity_hash=40fb44b104ba7858fb27f847b46b47a6

 

[David.]

Have had docks grow through Pas Tor treatment this year, presumably due to dry conditions following treatment. Applied with 200l/ha and good coverage.

 

[Chris F]

Have had docks grow through Pas Tor treatment this year, presumably due to dry conditions following treatment. Applied with 200l/ha and good coverage.

Pas is 150 g / l fluroxypyr and 150 g / l triclopyr what rate did you put the Pas on at?

Also on prices, I just asked Lucy and although Starane Hi-Load works out cheaper, we have sold Hurler every day for the last week and sold no Starane Hi-Load at all. Shows that farmers buy by brand name.

 

[milkloss]

Pas is 150 g / l fluroxypyr and 150 g / l triclopyr what rate did you put the Pas on at?

Also on prices, I just asked Lucy and although Starane Hi-Load works out cheaper, we have sold Hurler every day for the last week and sold no Starane Hi-Load at all. Shows that farmers buy by brand name.

By my calculations pas tor put on at the 2l/ha rate works out the same strength as doxstar pro but with added clopyralid. Should’ve worked really.

 

[David.]

Full whack, twinpack to 2ha.

 

[Chris F]

Full whack, twinpack to 2ha.

Like others have said - should have worked.