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Explain?
The loss of job/income will have to be paid by the govt through taxes.
The few left working will be crippled supporting the country. The rich will continue to get richer, whilst the 'workers' get poorer.
Dr Robert Goldman: Future predictions
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Explain?
The loss of job/income will have to be paid by the govt through taxes.
The few left working will be crippled supporting the country. The rich will continue to get richer, whilst the 'workers' get poorer.
SilliamWhale
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Well the price of things will cheaper. So things that were previously unaffordable will be more accessible. We will find new ways to tax and redistribute money. We will find new jobs, new support systems etc. As our priorities change
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Agree things will get cheaper...
But as robots and 3d printers do an ever growing % of the jobs, that means a smaller % of the population working... where would these new jobs be created? Bearing in mind we will have passed onto the reality of a robot doing a person's job, cheaper.
The govt. will move slowly, to keep the workers taxed hardest whilst the rich pay a lower share and accumulate wealth - as per the current situation.
The majority of people will be left with no jobs, and no income - other then state aid from govt. The 'welfate state' will have to grow beyond anything ever seen.
SilliamWhale
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Well we don't know yet. But computing industry has expanded as the agricultural industry has compressed. What is wrong with a robot putting iphones together rather than people? Even now there are plenty of non jobs that have grown as a result of "proper jobs" not being needed it has to be this way.
Thats great in theory, but unless there is an incentive to work, why bother.
With the increase in retirement age its actually going the other way, and the actual working workers
are being pushed harder than ever
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Sorry i dont follow you?
I was trying (maybe badly?) to make the point that if a robot is developed to take over doing someones job - that person becomes jobless... if there are robots to take over (almost) everyones jobs, then the majority of the population become unemployed. The govt. would have to step in, and enlarge the 'Welfare State' because we will still need to money to pay rent, bills etc... so if the majority are jobless and on the dole, how is the Govt. going to be able to raise the revenues needed to pay us?
What do we all do, having nothing to do??
Not in the world described when robots and 3d printers will take over all our jobs? There wont be retirement, because very few people will be working anyway.
There will be no incentive to work, unless the pay is substantially more as the govt. payouts.
SilliamWhale
Member
Sorry i dont follow you?
I was trying (maybe badly?) to make the point that if a robot is developed to take over doing someones job - that person becomes jobless... if there are robots to take over (almost) everyones jobs, then the majority of the population become unemployed. The govt. would have to step in, and enlarge the 'Welfare State' because we will still need to money to pay rent, bills etc... so if the majority are jobless and on the dole, how is the Govt. going to be able to raise the revenues needed to pay us?
What do we all do, having nothing to do??
Not in the world described when robots and 3d printers will take over all our jobs? There wont be retirement, because very few people will be working anyway.
There will be no incentive to work, unless the pay is substantially more as the govt. payouts.
My point is that we invent new things to do. The service sector is bigger than it was for example. The "experience" sector will probably increase.
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- Dumfries & Galloway
Everything has an upper limit.
But the most of those jobs could probably be done by robots too...
Not in the world described when robots and 3d printers will take over all our jobs? There wont be retirement, because very few people will be working anyway.
There will be no incentive to work, unless the pay is substantially more as the govt. payouts.[/QUOTE]
So to put it crudely, Who is going to clean up after you have crapped the bed in your retirement home,
Or can we expect the euthanasia debate very soon
There will be no incentive to work, unless the pay is substantially more as the govt. payouts.[/QUOTE]
So to put it crudely, Who is going to clean up after you have crapped the bed in your retirement home,
Or can we expect the euthanasia debate very soon
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- Dumfries & Galloway
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- S E Glos
He forgot the hover boards
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- S E Glos
If there's one thing I will never get my head round, it's the 3D printerI'm thinking of buying a 3D printer, using it to print another 3D printer, then sending the original back to get my money back.
Darren
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Wasn't it Sweden or Norway that was having a referendum this week about whether people out of work should receive the same basic income of those in work? Part of that was because technology had replaced so many in manual jobs.
Great in theory but if I knew my neighbour was getting the same salary for sitting at home all day I'd be far from pleased. Last I heard it was going to be a close call.
Great in theory but if I knew my neighbour was getting the same salary for sitting at home all day I'd be far from pleased. Last I heard it was going to be a close call.
SilliamWhale
Member
Yes and then humans will do something else.
Y Fan Wen
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- N W Snowdonia
Switzerland?
Darren
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- Lincolnshire
Could be. I was spaced out on beechams max strength at the time
At least the Swiss electorate seem not to have been.
Campani
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The
the idea was that every person gets a lump sum of money, saving on all the paperwork etc. If you get a job you earn the extra money on top of what you get from the government.
Cowabunga
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I was a great fan of The Jetsons in the 1960's. Unfortunately only a small proportion of their world has made it into ours. Yet.
