Drilling anyone?

Lincsman

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Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
FSS laureate going into soils this week not moved since September at 220kg/ha... Freeflow finding some moisture under the dry top. Rightly or wrongly ripped up a lot of very patchy winter wheat, with only the cost of seed incurred and only 40% of the field with plants it seemed right at the time.

Certainly a year when you have to make the decision that seems right to you and stick with it.
Rolled down tight afterwards, amazing how we can go from trying to dry things out to attempting to conserve moisture.
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Why are you running with that pin in on the drawbar upright?... it wont float properly.
 

Wombat

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BASIS
Location
East yorks
Drilled Monday

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Romeogolf

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Arable Farmer
Location
Wiltshire
Why are you running with that pin in on the drawbar upright?... it wont float properly.

Freeflows are really good at getting you stuck really quickly. Although it looks dry, in those fields there is some really wet holes. With that pin in, a little squeeze on the lift ram immediately puts weight on the drawbar without lifting the drill out and has saved me a number of times this week. On easy land with no holes the pin comes out. May not be correct, but it’s worked for me!
 
A ley that was sprayed out last sept that my dad wanted to attack with the trio this week was beaten into the field by a direct drill
IF you could remember where you stood for that photo and take a few more as it comes through I would be really interested , I think direct/strip till may be the only way to make this job survivable , I feel one drill maker on here spends ages walking around looking for a good spot to picture not showing the whole storey.
 
IF you could remember where you stood for that photo and take a few more as it comes through I would be really interested , I think direct/strip till may be the only way to make this job survivable , I feel one drill maker on here spends ages walking around looking for a good spot to picture not showing the whole storey.

Not expecting this field to be hedge to hedge perfect due to one or two areas which have been silage trailer hot spot's. One thing that may spoil it is that on part of the field there is a bit of a bank which made the drill crab a fair bit putting 2 rows togetherish but I'm grateful to Henry for drilling it for me, if I would off thought I'd of got him to do a couple of runs in the field that we are working / drilling today as a good comparison
 

Brisel

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Arable Farmer
Location
Midlands
Not expecting this field to be hedge to hedge perfect due to one or two areas which have been silage trailer hot spot's. One thing that may spoil it is that on part of the field there is a bit of a bank which made the drill crab a fair bit putting 2 rows togetherish but I'm grateful to Henry for drilling it for me, if I would off thought I'd of got him to do a couple of runs in the field that we are working / drilling today as a good comparison

Please may you post pictures of the crops established using different methods as they go along? I'm always interested in the "journey" of converting from tillage to DD. It's a road littered with pot holes that shake you up and damage you along the way but it's a steep learning journey too. I'm also keen to hear from those sceptical of the whole DD mantra who tell it like it is!
 
Please may you post pictures of the crops established using different methods as they go along? I'm always interested in the "journey" of converting from tillage to DD. It's a road littered with pot holes that shake you up and damage you along the way but it's a steep learning journey too. I'm also keen to hear from those sceptical of the whole DD mantra who tell it like it is!

As you probably know I've dipped my toes into DD a few times , a few good results but unfortunately a few disasters, if I was on different soil types then I think we would be DD converts but for the moment happy to try and learn a bit as we go along
 

DrWazzock

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Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
I am normally a dd enthusiast but the amount of water we have had here has left heavy low lying bits that weren’t lifted in the autumn very sad and hard. I fear if I don’t plough them then I can’t produce any tilth to cover the seed and if we do get any appreciable rain they will drown in the slots as these patches have become almost impermeable. They haven’t been ploughed for several years but sadly haven’t shown any sign of self structuring, just reverted to being lagoon bottoms that they were in prehistoric times.
Saw an article on the bbc a while back about the way the mouldboard plough revolutionised agriculture on clay soils in the northern hemisphere. Made me think a bit.


sorry can’t seem to do the link properly.
 
Not expecting this field to be hedge to hedge perfect due to one or two areas which have been silage trailer hot spot's. One thing that may spoil it is that on part of the field there is a bit of a bank which made the drill crab a fair bit putting 2 rows togetherish but I'm grateful to Henry for drilling it for me, if I would off thought I'd of got him to do a couple of runs in the field that we are working / drilling today as a good comparison
But that is what makes you perfect to show the germination , honesty. I think I would go into strip till with too high an expectation , I love the even germination from powerharrow ,drill, but it just to expensive to do, plough, roll, culterpress, ( sometimes twice) then powerharrow drill, roll, just no future in this now, sadly.
 

snarling bee

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Arable Farmer
Location
Bedfordshire
Last autumn I split a field, half was just light disced to 2 to 3", the rest disced and low disturbance subsoiled to about 10".
All the wet spots are in the disced only bit, as normal this year there are wet spots where there would never normally be one.
I am confident we don't have a pan at 3" as we normally would cultivate to 7".
 
But that is what makes you perfect to show the germination , honesty. I think I would go into strip till with too high an expectation , I love the even germination from powerharrow ,drill, but it just to expensive to do, plough, roll, culterpress, ( sometimes twice) then powerharrow drill, roll, just no future in this now, sadly.

I get more even germination from my 750 than I ever did with suffolk coulter
 

bankrupt

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Location
EX17/20
Different world!

Quite so.

The more we worked anything last autumn, Flat 10, the worse has been the inevitable result, but my take now is that the more working this spring, the better.

No doubt, however, where we've pulled out WO and replaced with SO, for example, and rolled them down tight against the drought, get 10" of rain in April and that'll be yet another disaster.

Only time will tell.

:D :D:D
 
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MrNoo

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Arable Farmer
Location
Cirencester
Next door went in with a direct drill of some sort (it looked green) and to be fair it looks like it has gone in very well indeed, wouldnt even know it had been drilled. I am starting to lean towards it, have a Vaddy and a combi currently, like the look of the Sim Tech T- Sem 480 as both my other drills are about worn out but I am still unsure.
 

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