Earth bank silage pit

[sodbuster]

Is planning permission necessary to build an earth walled pit?

 

[RWG Contracts]

Is planning permission necessary to build an earth walled pit?

Can it be seen? Are your neighbours busy bodies?

 

[rusty]

Your not building a silage pit, it's a concrete area for storage that happens to have a big soil bund around 3 sides!

 

[sodbuster]

I can get a grant for it via srdp funding. Just thinking I would prefer not to be asking for planning department to be snooping round my yard

 

[rusty]

I can get a grant for it via srdp funding. Just thinking I would prefer not to be asking for planning department to be snooping round my yard

If you get a grant won't they want to see your planning and environmental permissions?

 

[puppet]

Depends on where your neighbours live. How many other sheds have you put up if you don't want snoopers?Planning and building control is cheap compared to the other costs. The big risk is pollution. If SEPA are only aware of it after built then it could be condemned. It has happened round here. Then you have wasted a lot of money even if you can fix it. We found them perfectly helpful and they checked at floor and sides stages. There are reasons to get the correct paperwork, not least to ensure that the contractor or you actually knows what they are doing. Make sure plenty reinforcing in the floor and enough fall to make sure the effluent drains away - to a proper tank!! I have seen silage floors cracking and moving after just a few years.

 

[milkloss]

If you risk it the problem is going to be proving it was all built to spec to prevent pollution. Might be best to do it right. What's the saying? Don't do as I do..........

 

[Hilly]

If you get a grant everything will have to be 100% above board panning permission will just be the start, i might be worng but i think the grant only covers walled pits, you will need a huge walled pit to contain what you make ! if you only get grant on walled you will be cheaper building earth bank off your own back! filling mine after tea time today come and see you will be put off walls for life whe you see this and talk to buck rake man, its getting quite full !

 

[More to life]

You can't build an earth bank pit upto modern regs anymore, environment agency will condem it.

 

[Hilly]

You can't build an earth bank pit upto modern regs anymore, environment agency will condem it.

It used to be different in Scotland , im unsure if it still is, i wouldnt have a walled pit in a gift.

 

[puppet]

Still allowed in Scotland I think. We built one 4 years ago. The quotes with a grant were still more expensive than doing it ourselves, by which I mean us buying the materials then getting various tradesmen to lay the concrete and block walls. Hired in a digger for a week for the earth bank and hauled the rock ourselves.

 

[Hilly]

If i was building a new one again i would build a double ended one, that means if you have left over silage you can use it first the next winter and they are cheaper as you only need two sides.

 

[Blue.]

Get planning for a big concrete slab,no reason why you couldn't get a grant on a pad.

You could use bales for the sides or in a couple of years add a soil bank on either side.

 

[Tarw Coch]

If i was building a new one again i would build a double ended one, that means if you have left over silage you can use it first the next winter and they are cheaper as you only need two sides.

Very much doubt wether it will be cheaper, to hold the same amount as a pit with a back wall you would need to go longer, the longer walls being around about the same as a back wall but with extra flooring needed. I do agree on the convenience of being able to fill a pit and still use out old silage but depending on farm layout one end will probably be easier to fill and feed out from, the other problem being which way to slope the floor as you don't really want water running towards the silage.

 

[RWG Contracts]

Very much doubt wether it will be cheaper, to hold the same amount as a pit with a back wall you would need to go longer, the longer walls being around about the same as a back wall but with extra flooring needed. I do agree on the convenience of being able to fill a pit and still use out old silage but depending on farm layout one end will probably be easier to fill and feed out from, the other problem being which way to slope the floor as you don't really want water running towards the silage.

fall the floor to the left or right then fall that side to one end or the other, or both

 

[Hilly]

You have to get a good design to catch effulant without cathcing rain water as well, if you not building till next year go and look at some pits to get good ideas @Speedstar will know where the best ones to look at will be ! build right, build once.

 

[fermerboy]

Still allowed in Scotland I think. We built one 4 years ago. The quotes with a grant were still more expensive than doing it ourselves, by which I mean us buying the materials then getting various tradesmen to lay the concrete and block walls. Hired in a digger for a week for the earth bank and hauled the rock ourselves.

My neighbour built a beauty of an earthwalled pit last year, at a guess it must hold 4000 tonnes+
Earth bank and tar floor and apron. Really well done and levelled etc.

 

[Forever Fendt]

Is planning permission necessary to build an earth walled pit?

yes ,it will be classed as an engineering operation as it is not a building but still the same planning process, if you build it without planning and you get an enforcement notice when it is full you will be in the sh1t

 

[Will Wilson]

I am not going to push my luck but we build a system with concrete panels against the earth banks. I would be happy to help please fell free to get in touch.

 

[Will Wilson]

the structure.