Einstein quoted thru' the medium of Welsh

Walterp

Member
Location
Pembrokeshire
That Theresa May doesn't know what she's doing I already knew, but the rest of tonight's WAG/Farming Connect presentation at Parc y Scarlets in Llanelli was news to me.

Everyone came along, of course, to qualify for the FC's Farm Business Grant, but that was not what we got. Instead, we gained a glimpse into the future.

Mainly thru' the medium of Welsh - headset translators were available, but you didn't need simultaneous translation to appreciate the slick and thoughtful programme: video presentations, split screen visuals, attentive aides and, most of all, a purposeful air - doing the same thing, but expecting different results, was being actively discouraged.

The message was clear, even if Einstein was quoted in Welsh.

Euryn Jones HSBC and Iwan Price CARA conveyed the message that raising output without raising costs was the way forward, although neither could provide clarity on whether European markets for all that additional output would remain available, or on what terms - see 'Theresa May etc etc' for the reason why.

Old news, you might say, but here's what struck me as new - no previous FC events have been held primarily thru' the medium of Welsh, which spoke to me of two unexpected consequences of Brexit (are there any expected consequences, we ask ourselves?) Like France, agricultural support is seen in Cardiff as much in a cultural context as a commercial one; and there was an air of national self-confidence that I have never seen before outside Neuadd Pantycelyn*.

Next up, I suspect, is a Welsh farm diversification grant similar to the French idea of 50% support for holiday accommodation.

I had not appreciated that those-who-must-not-be-named do not have a Farming Connect service (another point made quite forcibly, tonight). We are very lucky that there are people with the ear of Government that have our interests, rather than those of some hedge fund or other, close to their heart.


* The Welsh-speaking hall of residence in UCW Aberystwyth.
 
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Cowabunga

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Location
Ceredigion,Wales
They have been holding large Farming Connect meetings in Welsh with translation through headsets for at least a couple of years now. I noticed at one I went to at the newly opened Llandysul shool, that only a small minority has need for and made use of the translation facility.

Yes we are indeed lucky to have a more rural based, or at least a more supportive regional Government than they who shall not be named. It does make a difference.
 

vantage

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Pembs
I was there,didn't need a headset as I understand most Welsh ,but struggle to hold a conversation.I was surprised at how many attended and also by the number of £1 m + turnover farmers there.
May be preaching to the converted here but in a slightly different format.
 

Al R

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
West Wales
First question @Walterp what are you buying through FBG?

They held an event of 250-300+ in haverfordwest last year and a vast majority used the headsets, my parents have outstanding welsh but couldn’t understand a thing the presenter was saying, the guy narrating in English was hard enough to understand (n)

I thought you had to go to the first FBG meeting to qualify and not the later ones - or is it that under subscribed they’ve had to open to a wider audience and taking in the £1m+ farmers?
 

Walterp

Member
Location
Pembrokeshire
1. Applying for the full grant, probably for a direct drill of some sort

2. This is the last FC meeting, by which you qualify to apply for a FBG grant

3. £1 million + T/O are excluded. I suspect this might have been lost in translation.

4. my neighbour, from Meidrim, complained that he couldn't understand what the Gogs were saying, in either English or Welsh. I didn't really pick up any extreme North Walian accents personally, but Wenglish it certainly was not - learnt lots of new words.
 

DeeGee

Member
Location
North East Wales
“Raising output without increasing costs.”

At last! A saviour! All hail the one who as the obvious answer to our plight! Someone who can for once and for all think outside the box!

Next thing will be government ministers encouraging us to embrace commercial reality, and to reduce our costs and be more efficient!

Why ever didn’t we all think of this before now?!!

Thank God we have experts!
 

DeeGee

Member
Location
North East Wales
Nor could I ever understand what the Hell the Cardis were saying when I worked there many moons ago.

To me Mam cu was a dog having pups; tir llafur was some sort of affiliation to the Labour Party, and da byw was a zest for life.

Never mind, those lovely down to earth people were probably some of the most hospitable and friendly you could ever wish to meet. Just so long as you didn’t want them to part with their money.
 
“Raising output without increasing costs.”

At last! A saviour! All hail the one who as the obvious answer to our plight! Someone who can for once and for all think outside the box!

Next thing will be government ministers encouraging us to embrace commercial reality, and to reduce our costs and be more efficient!

Why ever didn’t we all think of this before now?!!

Thank God we have experts!
I'm with you here, for years I've been buying dear and selling cheap and boy, what a struggle it has been!
But not any more, I'm going to get neat to the Meerkat and embrace comical reality.
 
Location
Cheshire
Euryn Jones HSBC and Iwan Price CARA conveyed the message that raising output without raising costs was the way forward,......
Next up, I suspect, is a Welsh farm diversification grant similar to the French idea of 50% support for holiday accommodation.

Alternative cursory view, jingoistic nationalistic fervour @Walterp, get better or get out.

50% holiday accommodation support is a golden handshake not a headage payment.
 

DrWazzock

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
Diversifications that need a 50% grant are generally lame ducks.

Three such ventures (two tea rooms and a "craft" shop) within a mile of here that failed after the grant money was used up (mostly spent on consultants).

The golden handshake became a golden handbrake on those farming businesses. Now they are rid of the diversifications and concentrating on their core businesses again " producing more for the same or reduced inputs" they are back on track.

Leave the tourist trade to those who already depend on it for their livelihoods. Don't undercut them with taxpayers money.

Maybe we are ahead of the curve in England, not 20 years behind it, stuck in an interventionist time warp.
 
Is it possible your neighbour from Meidrim has the ability to instil a sense of reality and balance to your posts WP most people from that source in the centre of "the milky way"have been aware of the need to translate Gog speak into weswalian for years. Surely the point of concern is the continued aim of successive administrations to socialy engineer west wales into a national park with free access to all by increasing its reliance on tourism. As for increasing output without extra cost it requires the magicians of Mydffai, remember experts are in general only drips under pressure.
 

Cowabunga

Member
Location
Ceredigion,Wales
I’m just amazed that every small welsh farm is needing its own direct drill to sow the few acres of turnips and grass they drill every year. Feel sorry for the contractors !:whistle:;)

Woohoo! I've always fancied a free and sexy direct drill for my turnips. Where do I queue for one. I'll have one spare as well if they are handing them out like Quality Street chocies
 

Hilly

Member
Woohoo! I've always fancied a free and sexy direct drill for my turnips. Where do I queue for one. I'll have one spare as well if they are handing them out like Quality Street chocies
Just get a bent dealer to invoice you twice as much get a free drill, sit it in the shed and do fuk all with it then sell it on after time scale up, ofcourse no one dose this i know :):) They all good honest farmers and dealers :):):facepalm::facepalm::whistle::whistle::whistle:
 

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