Electric fence energiser

[Shepherd12]

Looking for a powerful battery power energiser for training bunches of sheep to respect a fence and for keeping in 150 tup lambs that don't seem to care too much about an electric fence.
Currently all our kickers are Rutland (1.7 joules). Thought about a hotline 3.5 joule but the supplier says they have a tendency to eat battery's for breakfast. Anyone got any experience with hotline or any other make??? Starting to lose patience with the newer Rutland kickers a bit.

 

[Tim W]

I have a couple of these http://www.molevalleyfarmers.com/mv...r;jsessionid=C17370BEDE20EFD113574AEB6938C268

They are out on 2 mobs of 150 tup lambs in 35 acre blocks (3 strand electric) ---changing battery every 10 days/2 weeks at the moment----haven't had any escapees yet

 

[Sandpit Farm]

I have a couple of these http://www.molevalleyfarmers.com/mv...r;jsessionid=C17370BEDE20EFD113574AEB6938C268

They are out on 2 mobs of 150 tup lambs in 35 acre blocks (3 strand electric) ---changing battery every 10 days/2 weeks at the moment----haven't had any escapees yet

Good price!

 

[Gatehouse Farm]

I have a couple of these http://www.molevalleyfarmers.com/mv...r;jsessionid=C17370BEDE20EFD113574AEB6938C268

They are out on 2 mobs of 150 tup lambs in 35 acre blocks (3 strand electric) ---changing battery every 10 days/2 weeks at the moment----haven't had any escapees yet

Yep got a couple of these on the go. Plus got a D3000 or 3500, it's a hell of a beast powers up to 35 km. not sure if MVF have stopped selling them though, not advertised on their website anymore!

 

[neilo]

Looking for a powerful battery power energiser for training bunches of sheep to respect a fence and for keeping in 150 tup lambs that don't seem to care too much about an electric fence.
Currently all our kickers are Rutland (1.7 joules). Thought about a hotline 3.5 joule but the supplier says they have a tendency to eat battery's for breakfast. Anyone got any experience with hotline or any other make??? Starting to lose patience with the newer Rutland kickers a bit.

Any powerful 'training' fencer is going to drain batteries faster than a 1.7J fencer. I'd be more concerned if it wasn't. If you want power output then you will need some input too.

I used to have a Polish fencer for training, that would drain a large, long tractor battery (sorry, forgotten Ah) in a week. They're not imported any more unfortunately, but great for training.

 

[andybk]

after having 2 mvf fencers (own brand) stolen this year 2j , we replaced them , and bought a couple of these little hotline 2.4j to go with them http://www.molevalleyfarmers.com/mvf/store/products/gemini-120-12v-mains
they are only small but one fencer is currently keeping 80 rams in on 40 acres , they also had a 3 year warranty and so far extremely pleased , batteries have lasted well compared to the mvf own brand (gallagher i think ) and being smaller fit better in security boxes
if you are getting trouble , split the fence into 2 or three and put a fencer on each section for a few weeks , and always use good quality poly or wire (rappa 600m reels are excellent) and remember any knot is potential energy sapper , so keep your best wire for training.

edit : just checked info and mvf site says 1.2 j , but the box we have has same model number and is 2.4j ??? , this is correct as i rang hotline before we purchased querying the info on their site ,
defo 2.4j on fencer , so dont now if this is a special or not ?

 

[Shepherd12]

Thanks everybody

 

[Poorbuthappy]

Reviving this thread for info as much as anything.
I had been looking for a stronger fencer to educate some persistent sheep (lead was the next option!) and finished up with the D3500 from mvf which is still available -
http://www.molevalleyfarmers.com/mv...2v-230v-dual-power-electric-fencing-energiser
This has a stored energy of 3.5J and max output of 2.5J. ( @andybk its the output that counts I believe and the little Gemini has a high stored rating but lower output)
Was recommended a 40w solar panel to keep that running all summer so found decent one online too.

However called in to see Nicky in Agritec at Sedgemoor today and they sell the Patura range. The P5 has a 6.3J stored energy rating and 3.8J max output. If anyone is looking for higher powered battery fencer this looks a good option. Would need a decent size solar panel to keep it running though. 3 year warranty.
http://www.agridirect-uk.co.uk/prod/738/p5-energiser
Full spec - https://www.patura.com/App/WebObjec.../pid.102.104.954/agid.3.16.17/ecm.ag/P-5.html

 

[Bwcho]

Giving CPR a year down the line for this read, as well.

Seriously thinking about investing in electric fence equipment for temporary fencing. Have absolutely zilch knowledge of this - beginning to wish I'd paid attention in Physics class (and school in general). Having looked at different energisers, the MVF3500 has caught my eye. After researching these on here, I gather @Poorbuthappy , @Gatehouse Farm @andybk and @Tim W have experience of Mole Valley fencers, just wondered how you rate and got on with them?
The MVF3500 is £110 +VAT http://www.molevalleyfarmers.com/mv...2v-230v-dual-power-electric-fencing-energiser
The MVF2000 is £105 +VAT http://www.molevalleyfarmers.com/mv...2v-230v-dual-power-electric-fencing-energiser

Seeing as neither me nor the sheep have had any experience of electric fences, would it be better (and for the sake of a fiver) to go for the more powerful MVF3500 or is there a better alternative?

 

[andybk]

Giving CPR a year down the line for this read, as well.

Seriously thinking about investing in electric fence equipment for temporary fencing. Have absolutely zilch knowledge of this - beginning to wish I'd paid attention in Physics class (and school in general). Having looked at different energisers, the MVF3500 has caught my eye. After researching these on here, I gather @Poorbuthappy , @Gatehouse Farm @andybk and @Tim W have experience of Mole Valley fencers, just wondered how you rate and got on with them?
The MVF3500 is £110 +VAT http://www.molevalleyfarmers.com/mv...2v-230v-dual-power-electric-fencing-energiser
The MVF2000 is £105 +VAT http://www.molevalleyfarmers.com/mv...2v-230v-dual-power-electric-fencing-energiser

Seeing as neither me nor the sheep have had any experience of electric fences, would it be better (and for the sake of a fiver) to go for the more powerful MVF3500 or is there a better alternative?

I think the mole valley ones are made by gallagher we have a couple of mvf boxes here , good fencers , only issue is the size of them as we put them inside a ammo box and space is a bit tight , and they are a bit hungry for power
overall the best / simplest ones are sparkright , if you open them up just a few small changeable components.reliable and give a good spark , some here 20 years old
had good results with little gemini ones as well (£75 )
will not be buying electric shepherds again have a nearly new esb200 here dead as a nit (out of warrantee ) did one season , all the others only lasted a couple years .

sorry duplicate info , didnt read above !

 

[Tim W]

MVF fencers seem to do well here...not sure which ones I have but they are a few years old & functional
I always go for the bigger units

 

[Poorbuthappy]

Giving CPR a year down the line for this read, as well.

Seriously thinking about investing in electric fence equipment for temporary fencing. Have absolutely zilch knowledge of this - beginning to wish I'd paid attention in Physics class (and school in general). Having looked at different energisers, the MVF3500 has caught my eye. After researching these on here, I gather @Poorbuthappy , @Gatehouse Farm @andybk and @Tim W have experience of Mole Valley fencers, just wondered how you rate and got on with them?
The MVF3500 is £110 +VAT http://www.molevalleyfarmers.com/mv...2v-230v-dual-power-electric-fencing-energiser
The MVF2000 is £105 +VAT http://www.molevalleyfarmers.com/mv...2v-230v-dual-power-electric-fencing-energiser

Seeing as neither me nor the sheep have had any experience of electric fences, would it be better (and for the sake of a fiver) to go for the more powerful MVF3500 or is there a better alternative?

I would definitely go for the 3500, but be prepared to put a solar panel on it or change the battery very regularly.
I have 2, but 1 has already gone back for repair (under warranty). However I've had 3 or 4 hotline falcons and they don't seem to last any better. I've come to the conclusion if I need 4 or 5 battery fencers at least 1 is either going to need replacing or repairing under warranty every year or so.
I have an old, smaller gallagher which has been pretty reliable but when I asked supplier about newer gallagher models was told they were the make most regularly brought in for repair.
If mains is an option I'd seriously consider that although it's more outlay to start with.

 

[Timbo]

The Rutland 375 (3.5Joules) or similar is the boy you want for troublesome sheep! Anything under 2J is for school kids. It'll burn off grass and weeds that may grow onto the fence.

Add a 50w panel, charge controller and leisure battery for zero maintenance during the summer.

 

[GTB]

Out of interest how much does a solar panel and charging unit set you back?

 

[Poorbuthappy]

Out of interest how much does a solar panel and charging unit set you back?

I had 1 of these - http://www.sunstore.co.uk/12v-Solar-Battery-Charger-40w-Briefcase.html
Though think I paid bit less than that. Includes charge controller / regulator.
Not cheap but battery lasts a lot longer (total life) and saves keep changing/ charging battery and crucially educates sheep better as always full power.

 

[andybk]

I had 1 of these - http://www.sunstore.co.uk/12v-Solar-Battery-Charger-40w-Briefcase.html
Though think I paid bit less than that. Includes charge controller / regulator.
Not cheap but battery lasts a lot longer (total life) and saves keep changing/ charging battery and crucially educates sheep better as always full power.

that looks brilliant , but the gypos round here will have it away as soon as it went out , get any trouble with theft PBH

 

[scholland]

These are good old solar energiser but discontinued, they keep clicking all year http://www.easyanimal.co.uk/hotline-helios-solar-powered-energiser.html#.V02zX4-cHcs

May try the new drake version
http://www.molevalleyfarmers.com/mv...e-drake-hls67-solar-powered-fencing-energiser

They are dear but when you think about cost of battery and bolt on solar panel theyre not so bad. As long as they keep going...

 

[Timbo]

Out of interest how much does a solar panel and charging unit set you back?

£70.

 

[Man_in_black]

I have 3 of these and give a big thumbs up. Welsh mountain drafts who've barely seen a stock fence nevermind electric, but belt off this makes them think twice.

 

[Pasty]

MVF3500 is a good piece of kit. Got one nailed to a stake doing 6 x 50m poultry nets and giving out a good whack. I screwed a plastic storage box on to the stake and put the energizer in that as I'm sure some of my Hotline Geminis have died due to water getting in.

Also the MVF has a switch which saves mucking about with battery clips etc.