alomy75
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Because the costs to achieve the cereals and straw have gone up more…
ELMS: Parliamentary call for evidence
- Thread starter delilah
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Anyone else get the feeling its all turning into a bit squid game , where the small + weak are simply bumped off en masse , all this promise of money that for most will prob never materialise, a few that were always going to win , a higher power that just changes the rules for no discernible reason ,
Personally I'd see it the opposite way around - the bigger the unit the better the economies of scale.
Actively removing support (I'm not saying what support looks like) from smaller units encourages more and more consolidation which brings us closer to corporate farming similar to where we are with supermarkets now.
What's that going to do for food security? Profitable companies that then wean themselves off subsidies are more able to set their own strategies - including environmental. Grow and charge what you want, sounds great - but no one on here will be part of it - it'll all be sorted in some steel and glass building somewhere.
Hey ho, I'm off to turn the gas down because all the small suppliers have gone pop and we'll soon be stuck with Rusky Gaz and paying what they feel like charging today.....
Would you believe it they have only gone & discovered that the Drax power station burning 800,000 trees a day is now the biggest polluter in the UK who would have thought it.
Poor old Bozo is going to find it a bit hard lecturing China on pollution when his government are bunging Drax £800 million a year to persuade them to do so.
If there was a prize for the biggest hypocrite in the UK Bozo would be right up there in the running telling those silly little Brazilian farmers they shouldn't be burning trees, after all Bozo can easily claim the UK are now world leaders in tree burning!
Time for some lentil soup & then we must turn out the last of those large casks of Chateau Plonk that was a lovely gift from that nice bearded man in the white dress so that we can get the old Aston Martin out for a spin in the country!
Poor old Bozo is going to find it a bit hard lecturing China on pollution when his government are bunging Drax £800 million a year to persuade them to do so.
If there was a prize for the biggest hypocrite in the UK Bozo would be right up there in the running telling those silly little Brazilian farmers they shouldn't be burning trees, after all Bozo can easily claim the UK are now world leaders in tree burning!
Time for some lentil soup & then we must turn out the last of those large casks of Chateau Plonk that was a lovely gift from that nice bearded man in the white dress so that we can get the old Aston Martin out for a spin in the country!
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Where have they actually admitted that?
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“Converting Drax Power Station to use sustainable biomass instead of coal transformed the business into Europe’s biggest decarbonisation project and has helped Britain decarbonise its electricity system at a faster rate than any other major economy."
That's one way of spinning it.......
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"Converted to sustainable biomass".............
....... Clear felled and chipped in North Carolina then shipped to the UK but that didn't count because we only measure what happens inside our national borders (in compliance with the rules the global politicians agreed).
Sorry... I meant of course, what a massive shipload of bollix it all is...
farmerm
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and because in all likelihood we are currently in a high peak rather than experiencing a new average...
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I submitted this evidence on behalf of the TFF Grassroots Group on Tuesday. It pretty much supports what @delilah submitted.
View attachment PAC ELMS inquiry TFF Grassroots Group Final.pdf
View attachment PAC ELMS inquiry TFF Grassroots Group Final.pdf
Decent document and can be read and understood (mostly)by a layperson*
I would suggest that this para needed more emphasis on the danger of land becoming sterilised... ! And a major reason why ELMS may struggle on farmland.
Where the changed nature of the land use is designed to become permanent and thus affects the capital land value then this must also be compensated by the payment rates on offer. Many farms have borrowed money secured against their land value and any fall in land value may prevent their engagement with the scheme. Farms entering such a scheme unaware that the change of land use may become permanent when any scheme contract ends their financial viability could collapse.
Other than that, reall great work chaps. Thank you again.
Interesting that the issue of land in long term agreements becoming locked up, is getting more notice and coverage. There does seem to be a fair greater understanding of the dangers from a couple of chats I have recently with farmers. ..
* note the PC terminology!!
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I am sharing it with everyone I talk to.
We all need to go into this with our eyes wide open. If that means the SFI and ELM schemes are a failure then that is not our doing.....
Yes, and we need to keep emphasising it to DEFRA and Janet Hughes, who I am not sure really understand the issues here?