ELMS plans unveiled.

spin cycle

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Location
north norfolk
quick surf....2ac sunflower £30...2ac millet £18.50.....2ac fodder radish £30.....2ac mustard £18.50.....4.5 ac....so 325kg cereal seed....say £160

therefore 5 ha birdcover for £257....or say £52/ac


edit one
oh feck...hang on.....no group more than 90% by wt :banghead: :banghead: ......back to the drawing board james:banghead:

edit two....i'll be back ;)

ok my mix is 10kg each of millet/fodder radish/mustard/sunflower....so 40kg....add 325kg of wheat barley.....total 365kg so my cereal is 89%....so it is ok (y)
 

Brisel

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Arable Farmer
Location
Midlands
AB9 has to be established by mid June, so you've lost a combinable crop before you've even sown it unless it's after a ley with a first cut taken off it. A 2 year plot would be ok if you followed it with a spring crop afterwards.
 

steveR

Member
Mixed Farmer
quick surf....2ac sunflower £30...2ac millet £18.50.....2ac fodder radish £30.....2ac mustard £18.50.....4.5 ac....so 325kg cereal seed....say £160

therefore 5 ha birdcover for £257....or say £52/ac


edit one
oh feck...hang on.....no group more than 90% by wt :banghead: :banghead: ......back to the drawing board james:banghead:

edit two....i'll be back ;)

I am waiting with bated breath....
 

steveR

Member
Mixed Farmer
quick surf....2ac sunflower £30...2ac millet £18.50.....2ac fodder radish £30.....2ac mustard £18.50.....4.5 ac....so 325kg cereal seed....say £160

therefore 5 ha birdcover for £257....or say £52/ac


edit one
oh feck...hang on.....no group more than 90% by wt :banghead: :banghead: ......back to the drawing board james:banghead:

edit two....i'll be back ;)

Do the rules allow a home brew blend?

Later: I guess as long as you have a raft of Invoices from a seed house...
 

Brisel

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Arable Farmer
Location
Midlands
I am working out if AB9 after an overwintered CC like Westerwolds, silaged, then drill into the green stubble would work...?

You'd be prone to poor establishment if the weather was dry, which May/June can be. The silage would strip most of the moisture out. Good timing and little idle time though.

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steveR

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Mixed Farmer
You'd be prone to poor establishment if the weather was dry, which May/June can be. The silage would strip most of the moisture out. Good timing and little idle time though.

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Good point... would/could be a tight thing...

The heavier land we have here would be ok for this drilling, BUT the soils do not lend themselves to early silaging, even with my light kit.

Sheep grazing might be a better option!
 
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turbo

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Arable Farmer
Location
lincs
All the crystal ball gazers othering profit of doom on here can I ask where you are getting your figures from for the new scheme? I cannot find a good source of information to back up any of the claims being made on here all I can find is the cs scheme rates and looking at some of the options I can easily make up the lost sub in the first 2 years for not a lot of work ,or was you expecting to get bps and the elms payment at the same time
 

som farmer

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Livestock Farmer
Location
somerset
Regulation will be what kills this economy before they are finished though.
I saw a report, about 10 yrs ago, basically saying, as the 'west' uses ever increasing regulations, on its industries, more and more 'jobs' will go east. As the east economies increase, their workers will start to demand more and more 'better' working conditions, at the same time western countries economies will shrink, and in time, the east will be exporting work to the west !!!
 

B'o'B

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Rutland
All the crystal ball gazers othering profit of doom on here can I ask where you are getting your figures from for the new scheme? I cannot find a good source of information to back up any of the claims being made on here all I can find is the cs scheme rates and looking at some of the options I can easily make up the lost sub in the first 2 years for not a lot of work ,or was you expecting to get bps and the elms payment at the same time
No figures released for elms options payment rates
 

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