Emigrating to NZ from the UK to farm - Observations and advice?

[willy]

I think we diss the uk a bit too much, yes if you farm within the m25 it’s not exactly rural but loads of business opportunities, if you want stunning scenery and rural idyllic try the boarders, or Scotland or Wales, loads of opportunities and we have a real benefit, we have decent populations close by to sell our produce to, we have some of the most productive efficient methods and getting better, we also have good shooting fishing and many ski resorts and beach resorts less than 3 hours flight away also we have a decent pint and a good number of pubs.

If you want to be a pioneer farmer and start from scratch and build an empire, you either become a bit coin miner and make your fortune first or you go to some 3rd world country where opportunities of cheap land and growing markets are a plenty somewhere like Mongolia or Patagonia or Syria.

 

[davieh3350]

"Learning to love snow........"

I do, don't need to learn that!

 

[stewart]

My daughter No 2, went to Canada recently. She was looking to make a life there. It wasn't for her so she's back. In all honesty unless you've (@davieh3350) a pile of money or are under 25 I'd think you've got a reasonable set-up right now. OK you're not the owner but if you were would that make a huge difference? I went aged 30, looked & decided that the grass wasn't greener. My brother on the other hand went at 20 & stayed.....He's now got a lifestyle pretty similar to mine so in the end there's not that much difference. He's part time in the sheep farming & looks after convict built structures which are interesting in their own right.
I'll add that its Oz not Canada.
SS

Emigrating either to NZ, Australia or Canada is not for everyone and the move would not suit a lot of people, many, once trying it move back home, at least they have tried and found out for themselves.

I would struggle to have the lifestyle I have in New Zealand back in the UK. There are less people, the weathers better, the sea is 10 minutes from the back door, the lakes only an hour away, the kids can be snow skiing 3 hours drive from home, although it certainly is not the Alps.

There are of course down sides, we are 12,000 miles from some close family members, you cannot jump on a plane for a weekend in Europe, the nearest neighbouring countries are a 3 hour flight away.

It does depend on what suits the individual.

 

[glasshouse]

I wish I owned my place.
I want to do the same but to go to Canada instead. Only thing is, if I go the farm here pretty much goes for good.

Decisions decisions

you know you can get cash for a tenancy now?

 

[Fossil]

If we sell it earlier we have to give half to the previous owners. It's worth the wait

What if in that five years with Brexit, rising interest rates and maybe a Corbyn government, the value halves

 

[davieh3350]

you know you can get cash for a tenancy now?

Indeed. Farmers down the road had to pay handsomely to get into another bit farm.
Not sure if it's fair though.

 

[holwellcourtfarm]

What if in that five years with Brexit, rising interest rates and maybe a Corbyn government, the value halves

And what if the exchange rate doubles? All unknowns. I'm happy with the risk.

 

[FonterraFarmer]

Emigrating either to NZ, Australia or Canada is not for everyone and the move would not suit a lot of people, many, once trying it move back home, at least they have tried and found out for themselves.

I would struggle to have the lifestyle I have in New Zealand back in the UK. There are less people, the weathers better, the sea is 10 minutes from the back door, the lakes only an hour away, the kids can be snow skiing 3 hours drive from home, although it certainly is not the Alps.

There are of course down sides, we are 12,000 miles from some close family members, you cannot jump on a plane for a weekend in Europe, the nearest neighbouring countries are a 3 hour flight away.

It does depend on what suits the individual.

Sometimes having family 18,000 km away is a bonus!!!

 

[FonterraFarmer]

I wish I owned my place.
I want to do the same but to go to Canada instead. Only thing is, if I go the farm here pretty much goes for good.

Decisions decisions

Canada does have it's attractions , and from all the countries I've been to probably the only one I would like to live in other than NZ. The only draw back is the winters and cold temperatures

 

[glasshouse]

Indeed. Farmers down the road had to pay handsomely to get into another bit farm.
Not sure if it's fair though.

its not law just yet, how did they pay handsomely?
Theres f all fair in this world

 

[davieh3350]

its not law just yet, how did they pay handsomely?
Theres f all fair in this world

Because the new folk really really wanted the ground, and the folks leaving really really wanted their money.

 

[holwellcourtfarm]

Sometimes having family 18,000 km away is a bonus!!!

And you'll have noticed we're quite quick to make friends (but suffer fools badly )

 

[Samcowman]

Weather has turned a bit now. It did snow down here but has melted now.
@holwellcourtfarm

 

[Jon Boy]

Its flippin cold it didnt go above 3 deg yesterday and not much better today but improving next week hopefully.

 

[Samcowman]

Its flippin cold it didnt go above 3 deg yesterday and not much better today but improving next week hopefully.

Tell me about it. We are staying in a crappy old farmhouse. Single glazed very little insulation can see your breath inside the house. Up to New Plymouth Sunday so will definitely be warmer

 

[kiwi pom]

Come on now everyone knows NZ NEVER has any bad weather, its a tropical paradise 365 days a year. That's why farming's sooo easy here
Did wonder if you got to play in the snow @Samcowman

 

[holwellcourtfarm]

Come on now everyone knows NZ NEVER has any bad weather, its a tropical paradise 365 days a year. That's why farming's sooo easy here
Did wonder if you got to play in the snow @Samcowman

I call foul! I go in mid winter and didn't get to play in snow but @Samcowman goes in autumn and gets some

 

[Samcowman]

Kids loved it but we really weren't prepared for it so borrowed stuff and luckily daughter fits some of my wife's ski stuff when she was a kid. Also had a trip back to pleasant point today to the taxidermist and took a different route from Geraldine to there. Reinforced the idea it's a good area.
If it was mid winter we would have gone skiing and been prepared.

 

[stewart]

sh!t it's cold. Only just started picking so hope we don't have any frost until we have finished.

 

[Kiwi Pete]

Shorts weather down here
Long sleeves though!!