EU shows its true colours

Highland Mule

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Livestock Farmer
Because the people in charge dont want to leave without a deal, you will be told when we are leaving and under what terms.

It has nothing to do with your opinion or vote you have handed that responsibility to your elected representatives.

What’s more, the elected have a duty first and foremost to do what’s best for the country. They have the big picture which we do not. Churchill said that the hierarchy is to the country, the voters and then the party. I would say that Cameron reverses than when he called the referendum, and May has been left to square a circle inside an oxymoron.
 
The government is remain, that's why wto details etc aren't discussed or explained in anyway. Unfair but sadly true. Having stated that you have experience in trade, please tell me how the tariffs could be adjusted and when . What's the best alternative?
Sorry @Aircooled - was tied up yesterday dealing with government incompetence over stewardship schemes. The government published the tariff schedule should we leave with no deal, this was done barely a month ago so bloody useless for anyone to plan (regardless of how we voted as individuals), as such there is plenty of available information upon the impact of such tariffs, quotas etc. In short the schedule is flawed as it breaks a WTO rule, however, if it actually was implemented as published, then we would see all Ag exports "taxed" the moment we leave with No Deal, this includes nearly everything we export to nearly every country we trade with in these products, as our 44 odd trade agreements are as a member of the EU, and Foxy has failed to roll over these deals to more than half a dozen countries. However, simultaneously the same published tariffs confirm imports of Ag produce into the Uk will be at reduced tariffs, indeed all Ag produce from Ireland can pass into the North at zero tariffs whereas our produce going the opposite direction will have tariffs of 40% for lamb, 30% for dairy and as high as 80% on some beef and cereal! I mentioned flaws in the plan and this is it, the Uk can't grant tariff free to Ireland without doing so to the rest of the countries we trade with - incompetence or deliberate? Either way it's illegal but our government wish to do it.

The two most simple rules of WTO is this, firstly the UK can only adjust import tariffs and second, what tariffs they apply to one they must apply to all. So if you apply this to other WTO members who currently buy our produce and find they all of a sudden come with tariffs, well that importing country can reduce the tariffs for the UK - but then has to do so for every other country it trades with.....

For Brit Ag there is absolutely no better trade deal than the one we have as a member of the EU, it allows tax free import and export to our biggest customer, no border delays checking paperwork or the costs attached to collecting/paying excise duties. there are some who want to throw that deal in the bin so we can go do a deal with countries on the other side of the planet instead, but so far NOT ONE example of these supposed deals has been exampled on here, in public, by anyone. During my travels I can confirm Asia and South America are very excited at the prospects of a FT deal with the UK, I'm sure you can work out why.

I'm sure other industries and sector of the Uk can argue pro WTO, but for Ag to leave on WTO is ludicrous especially if done with no notice. Hope that helps a bit.
 

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