Ewes blowing guts out

Bury the Trash

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Mixed Farmer
Should add for the op that the intestines can be pushed out through the anus as well as the vagina /vulva route and both together at the same also.

and That force she has is so powerful as found when trying to put an 'ordinary' prolapse back, it doesnt seem like them pushing muscles are weakened by lack of mineral ! stronger and more powerful ones i suppose with a different type of function.
 

Anymulewilldo

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Cheshire
I've just had a ewe do this.

About 4 weeks from lambing and not started on any feed yet.

Seriously wtf?
Most years I get 1 within 2 weeks of starting. Always an older ewe and nearly always a triplet. I put it just down too pressure. 🤷🏻‍♂️ Could spend a fortune too save 1 ewe a year and there’s nothing too say it won’t do it anyway regardless of what I’ve done too stop it. 🤷🏻‍♂️ Bloody sheep!
 
Back about ten years ago, we had 4 ewes put out their insides out very quickly and could not be put back in, the vet came and carried out a PM on two of the ewes and found pulpy kidney. Which makes the whole back end go all weak and the uterus and intestines go paper thin and weak.
The vet made contact with the company supplying the vaccine and they stated that the vaccine didn’t work on all animals and a few per hundred could prolapse.
 

Nithsdale

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Livestock Farmer
Had a thin, single carrying (scanned) ewe prolapsed this morning. She's a TexX ewe due to lamb in the first 2 weeks of March, carrying a Beltex lamb. She's on ok grass, getting no concs/buckets or any other feed.


Any of the experts like to explain this one to me because it's only big/fat multiple carrying ewes which prolapse, apparently 🤷🏻‍♂️
 

Anymulewilldo

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Cheshire
Had a thin, single carrying (scanned) ewe prolapsed this morning. She's a TexX ewe due to lamb in the first 2 weeks of March, carrying a Beltex lamb. She's on ok grass, getting no concs/buckets or any other feed.


Any of the experts like to explain this one to me because it's only big/fat multiple carrying ewes which prolapse, apparently 🤷🏻‍♂️
1) it’s a sheep
2) it’s a female sheep
3) it’s a pregnant female sheep
Sort of just about covers it. We do get the VERY occasional prolapse in a single, but like 1 in 3/4 years. Never gathered why other than shear bloody mindedness. Our singles get nowt but haylage and mineral licks
 

Jonp

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Gwent
Had an old Welsh ewe that had a vag prolapse a few years ago carrying twins. Spooned her and she lambed and raised a good set of lambs. Marked as a cull but escaped the journey (probably hiding in a hedge). Anyway she went onto have twins for another two seasons before commiting suicide in a ditch. Called her push as there was no stopping her if there was a food scrum...think this is how she got the prolapse.
 

Jonp

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Gwent
I’ve had two prolapse one blown guys out and two mystery deaths. Always blame fodder beet but what the law of averages. 6 weeks off
Having prolapses 6 weeks off lambing would worry me....thought they tended to be when they were close to lambing with not much rumen volume. What are they eating apart from FB?
 

Kingcustard

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I’ve had two prolapse one blown guys out and two mystery deaths. Always blame fodder beet but what the law of averages. 6 weeks off
I get my prolapses 4 to 6 weeks before lambing too. Had 3 in 3 days this year in a field of 100. It is a steep field and they were getting half a pound of feeding and fodder beet. Had the shed ready so ran them in and stopped the beet and upped the feeding.

No more prolapses.

Not sure if it is down to luck, sods law, the beet or the steep hills, I know plenty folk who use ad lib beet and get no prolapses.

Some people say steep hills are the problem and some people reckon they actually need excerise to keep muscle tone and prevent prolapse.

One thing for sure, no matter what the experts say, and I've ready plenty studies on it, no one can definitively prove what causes a prolapse, I have had every type of ewe, on every system, with every number of lambs prolapse. Even had the odd one prolapse after lambing. I have plenty real life examples which disprove the theories of the apparent experts.

Also agree that just because a ewe did it before it doesn't always follow it will do it again.

If it's to do with minerals such as Calcium why do ewes on crystalyx, ewes on hard feed and ewes on no feed all do it. If it's down to a hard lambing the year before then why do unlambed gimmers do it.

Maybe it's genetic but I find every breed is susceptible to it.

I think it's what sheep do as a last resort when you have covered every other problem they can cause you hassle with.
 

Northern territory

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Livestock Farmer
I get my prolapses 4 to 6 weeks before lambing too. Had 3 in 3 days this year in a field of 100. It is a steep field and they were getting half a pound of feeding and fodder beet. Had the shed ready so ran them in and stopped the beet and upped the feeding.

No more prolapses.

Not sure if it is down to luck, sods law, the beet or the steep hills, I know plenty folk who use ad lib beet and get no prolapses.

Some people say steep hills are the problem and some people reckon they actually need excerise to keep muscle tone and prevent prolapse.

One thing for sure, no matter what the experts say, and I've ready plenty studies on it, no one can definitively prove what causes a prolapse, I have had every type of ewe, on every system, with every number of lambs prolapse. Even had the odd one prolapse after lambing. I have plenty real life examples which disprove the theories of the apparent experts.

Also agree that just because a ewe did it before it doesn't always follow it will do it again.

If it's to do with minerals such as Calcium why do ewes on crystalyx, ewes on hard feed and ewes on no feed all do it. If it's down to a hard lambing the year before then why do unlambed gimmers do it.

Maybe it's genetic but I find every breed is susceptible to it.

I think it's what sheep do as a last resort when you have covered every other problem they can cause you hassle with.
Totally agree with you on this, went to an interesting talk the other night and a guy who does the post mortem stuff was on about it. He reckoned to much fat around the uterus, I’m like you though I think sometimes with sheep it’s just Sod’s law. Cut our fodder beet a bit but you have to be careful with that. On the other hand we hardly ever get twin lamb now when grazing beet so what you gain in one you lose in another.
 

Kingcustard

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I had a ewe push her uterus out in the shed so put a harness on her and stopped the beet, they only get one beet per head. 3 days later ewe with twin lamb, not bad, but it's definitely a balancing act. They are back on the beet, can't win with sheep
 

Northern territory

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Livestock Farmer
Not sure if farmers genuinely don't get death and illness with their sheep or are just a bit liberal with the truth to further their arguments.

I have a few neighbours who never lose a ewe, I can only assume the dead lorry gets his directions wrong when they are driving up their farm road haha!!!
Funny how we all have a neighbour like that
 

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