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Farmer Roy's Random Thoughts - I never said it was easy.
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- Glen Clova, Angus, DD8 4RD
Don't forget average rainfall around here is more like 650mm and drought years under 400.Rain water of the house roof, ie 100-140m3, should provide enough water for a 5000 gal/22500 litre tank for a family of 4 with the average rainfall of 1200mm for the entire year.
We were pushing hard that the water companies should heavily lobby the politicians for a change to the building regs mandating the installation of grey water recycling and rainwater harvesting in all new builds and renovations of over 5 properties though starting ASAP as a good start.
At least all the water wasted by flushing loos could be on it's second use
FonterraFarmer
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"Dad" can look after them, I'm sure he can do a good jobNext
As soon as I can spare the money - Hopefully next Jan/Feb but not counting on it. She can't contemplate being away from the puppies for more than 2 weeks so it could be a tight itinerary
, I'd "suggest" four weeks, and not forget that's in the middle of the summer holiday season. Pinot is on the wine rack.
FonterraFarmer
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You can't do what they did in California, 600 mile pipeline from up North?Don't forget average rainfall around here is more like 650mm and drought years under 400.
We were pushing hard that the water companies should heavily lobby the politicians for a change to the building regs mandating the installation of grey water recycling and rainwater harvesting in all new builds and renovations of over 5 properties though starting ASAP as a good start.
At least all the water wasted by flushing loos could be on it's second use
Thats bloody stupid. No one would miss that £3 i bet it doesnt even buy a pint down there it only just does here.You weren't there listening in, were you?
I must have said that at least 10 times this morning but just got "OFWAT wouldn't approve it"
Get this: Their current average household bill for water in their patch is £170/yr. Due to efficiency savings they have identified they reckon that they can deliver their plan whilst dropping this to £167 from 2020 to 2025 before inflation.
They were amazed when I suggested that they should keep it at £170 and spend the extra income on environmental measures, starting with subsidising water saving retrofit (Grey water, Rainwater harvesting etc) for their customers. Almost all the others present agreed
People are getting the safest water they could ever wish to drink anywere piped straight to their homes to do whatever they want with it and it costs barley anything. If they lived in a million other places in the world they wouldnt be so lucky. Even supposedly rich European countries have to buy bottled water to drink. Large parts of he world with millions or people (billions probably) dont have any access to piped water at all they have to carry it from natural watercourses and wells dug by hand and it still mighr not be safe to drink. We get it piped into our houses and still moan its too expensive. If it was 10 times the price it would still be cheap. People might appreciate it and use less then too.
Another post that turned a bit ranty
Theres big cities in south america (i forget which ones) that have to carry water in with tankers.You can't do what they did in California, 600 mile pipeline from up North?
They do say the next world war will be over water
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- Glen Clova, Angus, DD8 4RD
Good job you weren't there to support me, It could have quickly become very "ranty"Thats bloody stupid. No one would miss that £3 i bet it doesnt even buy a pint down there it only just does here.
People are getting the safest water they could ever wish to drink anywere piped straight to their homes to do whatever they want with it and it costs barley anything. If they lived in a million other places in the world they wouldnt be so lucky. Even supposedly rich European countries have to buy bottled water to drink. Large parts of he world with millions or people (billions probably) dont have any access to piped water at all they have to carry it from natural watercourses and wells dug by hand and it still mighr not be safe to drink. We get it piped into our houses and still moan its too expensive. If it was 10 times the price it would still be cheap. People might appreciate it and use less then too.
Another post that turned a bit ranty
To be fair, the company guys were very good. They are constrained by the limits that the politicians set them.
"Triple the price of water! We'd never get re-elected! "
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- Glen Clova, Angus, DD8 4RD
Easily. It just needs the politicos to decide it's essential (like HS2 rail and a 3rd Heathrow runway)You can't do what they did in California, 600 mile pipeline from up North?
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- Glen Clova, Angus, DD8 4RD
Get people to carry their own drinking water from a shop. Or even better carry all their water from a river they wouldnt be long changing their tune about water being too expensive.Good job you weren't there to support me, It could have quickly become very "ranty"
To be fair, the company guys were very good. They are constrained by the limits that the politicians set them.
"Triple the price of water! We'd never get re-elected! "
Politicians
Was just thinking the same thing
It’s not Saskatoon season.Add that to the list of things to eat next month
FonterraFarmer
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FonterraFarmer
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The whole bottled water/town water situation seems somewhat funny to one who only has roof water from tank supply for use.Get people to carry their own drinking water from a shop. Or even better carry all their water from a river they wouldnt be long changing their tune about water being too expensive.
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I did point out that rural NZ doesn't have mains water, only rainwater harvesting, and you cope perfectly well. They still didn't agree with me that the target should be 80l/hd/day though.The whole bottled water/town water situation seems somewhat funny to one who only has roof water from tank supply for use.
By 2050 they (& the other companies supplying the SE UK) state there will be no alternative but to invest in either long distance pipelines or huge reservoirs to store winter flood water. (Again, common in NZ
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FonterraFarmer
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All new houses here locally have to have two 22500 litre tanks for rain water collection as some subdivions only get nonpotable water for supply.I did point out that rural NZ doesn't have mains water, only rainwater harvesting, and you cope perfectly well. They still didn't agree with me that the target should be 80l/hd/day though.
By 2050 they (& the other companies supplying the SE UK) state there will be no alternative but to invest in either long distance pipelines or huge reservoirs to store winter flood water. (Again, common in NZ
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- Cornwall
Everyone here has a rainwater tank. You’d think with the UK’s rainfall it’d be pretty easy to keep one pretty full even with high water use and “sitting down to pee”. I get some people’s aversion to drinking it due to bird poo and other detritus getting into it from the roof, but I see no reason why it can’t be used for everything else and keep the mains for drinking.
Our mains water is piped from the Murray River all over the state in a network of pipelines. That water tastes of mud when it comes out of the tap. We filter it and it’s fine.
Back home, Mum and Dad are on their own water supply from a spring and it tastes better than any of the ridiculous bottled water.
Our mains water is piped from the Murray River all over the state in a network of pipelines. That water tastes of mud when it comes out of the tap. We filter it and it’s fine.
Back home, Mum and Dad are on their own water supply from a spring and it tastes better than any of the ridiculous bottled water.
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- Cornwall
Everyone here has a rainwater tank. You’d think with the UK’s rainfall it’d be pretty easy to keep one pretty full even with high water use and “sitting down to pee”. I get some people’s aversion to drinking it due to bird poo and other detritus getting into it from the roof, but I see no reason why it can’t be used for everything else and keep the mains for drinking.
Our mains water is piped from the Murray River all over the state in a network of pipelines. That water tastes of mud when it comes out of the tap. We filter it and it’s fine.
Back home, Mum and Dad are on their own water supply from a spring and it tastes better than any of the ridiculous bottled water.
Our mains water is piped from the Murray River all over the state in a network of pipelines. That water tastes of mud when it comes out of the tap. We filter it and it’s fine.
Back home, Mum and Dad are on their own water supply from a spring and it tastes better than any of the ridiculous bottled water.
RushesToo
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@hendrebc This is not a rant this is common sense. I live in Essex, water is a precious resource to be cherished not a right. Charge us, make us use grey water. There are no rivers any more and there is not more rain. It really isn't higher level mathematics to work this out.Thats bloody stupid. No one would miss that £3 i bet it doesnt even buy a pint down there it only just does here.
People are getting the safest water they could ever wish to drink anywere piped straight to their homes to do whatever they want with it and it costs barley anything. If they lived in a million other places in the world they wouldn't be so lucky. Even supposedly rich European countries have to buy bottled water to drink. Large parts of he world with millions or people (billions probably) dont have any access to piped water at all they have to carry it from natural watercourses and wells dug by hand and it still mighr not be safe to drink. We get it piped into our houses and still moan its too expensive. If it was 10 times the price it would still be cheap. People might appreciate it and use less then too.
Another post that turned a bit ranty
The people are going up in numbers because someone let out that we were a nice place to live and nearish to London. [Thought - maybe I should start sabotaging the railway main line upgrades into London Liverpool street - hmmmm]
Where I live the land cannot afford water hungry people, so go somewhere else or follow some really basic rules.
Not.a.rant
FonterraFarmer
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Sediment filter and decent sized UV filter, job done!!!