- Location
- leics/warks border
I've just read the latest DEFRA booklet that came in the post this morning.
It all sounds great, I just hope it live up to expectations.
It all sounds great, I just hope it live up to expectations.
Farming is Changing
- Thread starter britt
- Start date
I‘ve seen some draft ELMS stuff yesterday that was very exciting, sadly can not share yet
Devil will be in the detail.... 
Exciting for you, because you choose to farm in a particular way, or for all of us.?
Maybe the rest of you need to change
I think your the ones that are changing and going back to the way we’ve always farmed. Mixed, with livestock, plenty of muck, grass and cover crops( although we always called them catch crops and grazed sheep on them )
wouldn’t mind betting my soil is in far better heart than most big arable outfits that grow the odd cover crop.
You should be in good stead then for elms
- Location
- South Molton
Obviously you haven't been on a call with one of the environmental charities!!
Not one mention of farming!
beefandsleep
Member
- Location
- Staffordshire
My thoughts
Well, I won't be changing. If it means continuing to manage without dole money, so be it. The only thing that would excite me is a sensible 21st century price for produce. I expect I'll remain unexcited then. Or decidedly meh as young people would say.
- Location
- Lincolnshire
Govt: small mixed farming = good.
Farmer: can I have planning for a livestock building then?
Govt: NOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Farmer: can I have planning for a livestock building then?
Govt: NOOOOOOOOOOOO!
4course
Member
- Location
- north yorks
yep ,and that wont be in growing trees or creating swamps here
serf
Member
- Location
- warwickshire
Spend all your life trying to dry swampy ground out , then they want you to ruin it again
- Location
- leics/warks border
Have any of you actually read it ?
It's not just ELMS. There is stuff about help with productivity and efficiency and not allowing our standards to be undermined. So we should be able to make more from what we do farm and earn from what we don't.
It's just a case of whether the government can be trusted long term.
It's not just ELMS. There is stuff about help with productivity and efficiency and not allowing our standards to be undermined. So we should be able to make more from what we do farm and earn from what we don't.
It's just a case of whether the government can be trusted long term.
serf
Member
- Location
- warwickshire
Think you answered your own question there , gov dont do long term by definition....!
There will come a time although maybe too late for me, when somebody with influence cottons on that we need to produce food after all, and although I'll be looking to take advantage of the money available, I started farming on a productive farm and I intend to leave it as a productive farm.
exciting because it’s forward, joined up thinking and doesn’t just pay you for being born with a silver spoon or for thinking that producing food top trumps any other responsibilities
we won’t need government long term based on a few conversations I’ve had recently.
most farmers seem totally unaware of just how in the pound seats we are about to become ............ long overdue !