Farming strike

[Pan mixer]

We have never been in a stronger position to strike, ring every slaughterhouse and say all beef will have to be £5/kg or it will be staying at home. Sfa they could do with such short notice and contracts mean nothing when its them wanting to change it. No way on earth we should be price takers, we produce it, we should set the price.
We are all as thick as shite for letting them get away with it.

Loads of farmers waking up to the fact that selling produce direct and local is far more profitable than selling it to robbing supermarkets

Local butchers are already bringing in foreign beef at less than home produced, similarly with pork.

They would just bring a bit more in from abroad, sometimes signing up to longer contracts with foreign processors to gaurantee supply.

After the 'strike' there would be a price crash of major proportions.

 

[Yale]

Maybe if farmers who are members of unions got off their backsides and supported them by getting involved we would all be stronger. It’s OK to moan and bitch from the sidelines however if you don’t do your bit then you are part of the problem.

 

[Ffermer Bach]

I can see it. What’s intended is ever greater State control of the land. They think they know best but they don’t. They meddle and tinker with things they know little about and we have already seen crops such as beet and OSR jeopardised by their “expert” advice.
And they continually put the brake on alternative land uses such as renewables even for land that is incredibly inefficient at food production. Ms Coffeys party is a big hindrance to growth in the rural economy and national energy and food supply security. Bumbling amateurs blinded by a combination of nimbyism, zero practical experience and greenwash.

~And add to that an overwhelming belief that they know best and have absolutely no need to ever bother asking anyone why their plans could go wrong!

 

[jack6480]

Things will get better when labour get in, just hold tight

 

[henman]

the only way to increase the lamb and beef price is to decrease production , We have been saying it in the egg industry for 3 years we were loosing money ,the packers and supermarkets no that because they have there own production to . the egg industry has cut production empty shelves 30% rise in egg price we need % 40 rise

 

[Granite Farmer]

As an industry we really need to control not only the production but also the processing side. that way we can claw money back from further up the supply chain. I could possibly mean more political clout as well.

What is also desperately need is the NFU to be more proactive and modern. Social media campaigns for example need to be targeted and monitored. Farmers also need to make the upmost effort to attend any protest that are organised regardless of it is to do with your sector or not.

 

[betweenthelines]

I was wondering what you guys/girls would think about a farming strike. I'm a beef man myself and obviously I can't stop feeding stock but we can stop selling stock for say 2 weeks. Surely it would cause enough chaos to get powers above to take notice.
Apparently to Therese coffey statement the other day, they need us! You wouldn't think so the way we're messed abosorry all abit random, not the best scoller!
What's all your thoughts?

What, like the last two weeks of December?

 

[Two Tone]

IMO, Therese Coffey is the worst Secretary of State for EFRA there has ever been.

WTF does she think she is!
A fat version of Rees Mogg?

She realises that they cannot fulfil their environmental/CO2 commitments without us, yet despite reducing their BPS payments to us and ELMs uptake being pathetic, reckons that if we don’t do as we are told, that they will force us to!

How?
At a time when everybody sees there weekly shopping bill going through the roof.
They must think we were born yesterday!

You’d better get used to losing the next election Therese, big time!
I’m not sure that your ‘safe Conservative’ East Suffolk constituency are going to vote for you again.
They think you’re an f’ing Joke!

 

[delilah]

Yes true. Fair stock price that covers breeding/wintering cost and not to rely on bps payments to break even

Which leads to the other part of my point; who do you see as your employer ? You have said you want a 'fair stock price'. If you are going on strike for that, then who are you regarding as your employer, the Government or the person who buys your stock ? You will stay on strike until you get a 'fair price' ? what is that price ?

 

[topground]

I was wondering what you guys/girls would think about a farming strike. I'm a beef man myself and obviously I can't stop feeding stock but we can stop selling stock for say 2 weeks. Surely it would cause enough chaos to get powers above to take notice.
Apparently to Therese coffey statement the other day, they need us! You wouldn't think so the way we're messed about. View attachment 1080233sorry all abit random, not the best scoller!
What's all your thoughts?

Presumably DEFRA will be taking the polluters head on as effectively as they have taken on the water companies polluting rivers and the seas with raw sewage.
There is effective action taken place currently in the form of non cooperation with the SFI scheme fiasco.
It is not organised but it is likely to be effective because there are civil service jobs at stake.
Coffey refers to SFI applications being turned around in two weeks as though that is some triumph of civil service efficiency when we all know that the numbers signing up are so low that even the glacial pace of operation of the average civil servant can keep up.
Since there is no financial incentive to sign up for SFI particularly for an all grass farm this is the cheapest form of action available to us food producers and is the only thing likely to focus the minds of civil service mandarins since they risk losing control of farmland through an inadequate replacement for BPS.
Without the carrot Coffey will have to resort to the stick. Enforcement is expensive and DEFRA would be subject to the scrutiny of the criminal justice system and they won’t like that.
Any form of strike as such would not be effective in increasing farm incomes but forcing DEFRA to increase financial support for food production at home through not engaging with the schemes set at their current rates just might.

 

[Hilly]

As an industry we really need to control not only the production but also the processing side. that way we can claw money back from further up the supply chain. I could possibly mean more political clout as well.

What is also desperately need is the NFU to be more proactive and modern. Social media campaigns for example need to be targeted and monitored. Farmers also need to make the upmost effort to attend any protest that are organised regardless of it is to do with your sector or not.

The nfu need killed off 100% to fuked up to reform .

 

[Two Tone]

The nfu need killed off 100% to fuked up to reform .

Therein lies our real problem!

 

[Kidds]

If you read that text there is a shot over the bows for farmers. ‘If you don’t accept our rules and support for net zero you will be castigated and criminalised’. Fascism unfolding before our eyes!

Exactly this!
The offer of help was simply a warning what will come if you don't comply, just take a look at Canada, Holland and Sri Lanka if you want to see where farming and the government is heading.

 

[Hilly]

Therein lies our real problem!

Exactly , killing it off has to be the forst port of call before anything can be done, all farmers who pay in are funding the enemy .

 

[Matt14]

Maybe if farmers who are members of unions got off their backsides and supported them by getting involved we would all be stronger. It’s OK to moan and bitch from the sidelines however if you don’t do your bit then you are part of the problem.

True but what's the plan? I was just putting it out there for ideas and thoughts

 

[Old apprentice]

What is also desperately need is the NFU to be more proactive and modern. Social media campaigns for example need to be targeted and monitored. Farmers also need to make the upmost effort to attend any protest that are organised regardless of it is to do with your sector or not.

Never happen nfu, get loads of cash of supermarkets and the ilk.

 

[Yale]

True but what's the plan? I was just putting it out there for ideas and thoughts

Err....just go to county meetings and put your case.

 

[delilah]

I was just putting it out there for ideas and thoughts

Positive ideas ? On here ? You've got no chance.

 

[Two Tone]

Exactly , killing it off has to be the forst port of call before anything can be done, all farmers who pay in are funding the enemy .

Even Coffey realises that. Why did she make her announcement at the CLA?
A) She thinks these are the folks that vote Tory and are their only hope of continuing in power.
B) She know the NFU are a joke.

 

[Matt14]

What, like the last two weeks of December?

Don't know, I was think out loud