- Location
- Bury St Edmunds
On a 6000lt trailed sprayer. Either 724 or 4220?
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Fendt or Fastrac
- Thread starter Banana Bar
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- Location
- Aberdeenshire
You really know how to wind the forum up don’t you?! Guess you have made your decision on trailed. Looking forward to your next thread on make of trailed to go for ?
- Location
- Bury St Edmunds
I’m close to deciding the direction I’m going. I know of 2 trailed on Fastracs locally.
Know what you mean about winding people up, seems as though mentioning new kit is about as popular as a french kiss at your grannies birthday party!
- Location
- Aberdeenshire
Well never driven either. There are quite a few 4220s around and many on sprayers. Seems to be drivers love them but owners not so much. Running costs appears high and questionable reliability which is not really what you want on a sprayer tractor for your size of enterprise.
kiwi pom
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- Location
- canterbury NZ
What else will it be used for?
Something cheaper would be fine for towing a sprayer round wouldn't it?
JCB don't have the best reliability reputation do they?
Something cheaper would be fine for towing a sprayer round wouldn't it?
JCB don't have the best reliability reputation do they?
Chae1
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- Location
- Aberdeenshire
Personally I would want a vario on next sprayer tractor.
davidroberts30
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- Location
- pembrokeshire
So 724 or 4220 then....
Chae1
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- Location
- Aberdeenshire
Other tractors are available with varios, my post was in response to the kiwi poms that something cheaper would do.
- Location
- Huntingdon, UK
Personally I love my 4220, but it’s all down to taste, and the last Fendt I drove was a 93 something 11 years ago in Slovakia.
The 4220s have their problems but mine’s just been traded in for another identical one.
The last Fendt we had on the farm was brought back off us by the dealer as was costing too much in warranty, although that was a long while ago.
The 4220s have their problems but mine’s just been traded in for another identical one.
The last Fendt we had on the farm was brought back off us by the dealer as was costing too much in warranty, although that was a long while ago.
puntabrava
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- Location
- Wiltshire
Will be very comfortable parked up broken down two days a week.
Chae1
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- Location
- Aberdeenshire
You don't really keep them long or run them to high hours though?
I think the 7-10k hours period sorts out the men from the boys.
Feldspar
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- Location
- Essex, Cambs and Suffolk
My biggest concern after reading about Fastracs was the reliability. Got a 5 year warranty on ours given these concerns. Problem is if it goes down at a critical time we don't have another tractor that could pull the sprayer instead just like that, although given ISOBUS it could be done with some new hydraulic fittings. Have 1000 hr service coming up and a slight grumble in the diff with 4WD which I need to check (might be something I'm doing).
Never driven Fendt, so can't comment on their comfort, but can certainly say that the 4220 is just in another league compared to the Masseys we had. If you're thinking about a Horsch, one of the key strengths is stability at speed, and you need a comfortable tractor to make that doable from an operator's point of view. I had a sore back before and now it's gone despite having spent 750 hours in it this year. I almost wouldn't drive anything else now. 4WS does mean a bit of extra complexity and button pressing to swap between the two modes (Topcon doesn't steer in 4WS very well so use this at either end of the field). However, I find backing the sprayer into corners a LOT easier with 4WS as you can pretty much put the boom where you want it (almost easier than a SP now I've got used to it).
Only thing to think about with the trailed sprayers (especially a GS with a long wheel base) on 36m is that it's so long that you don't have much room to switch boom off and turn except in perfectly square headlands (this is again exacerbated with Topcon because at the moment I'm struggling to get it to model a steered trailed implement, but have been told of a trick to improve this which I need to try).
Never driven Fendt, so can't comment on their comfort, but can certainly say that the 4220 is just in another league compared to the Masseys we had. If you're thinking about a Horsch, one of the key strengths is stability at speed, and you need a comfortable tractor to make that doable from an operator's point of view. I had a sore back before and now it's gone despite having spent 750 hours in it this year. I almost wouldn't drive anything else now. 4WS does mean a bit of extra complexity and button pressing to swap between the two modes (Topcon doesn't steer in 4WS very well so use this at either end of the field). However, I find backing the sprayer into corners a LOT easier with 4WS as you can pretty much put the boom where you want it (almost easier than a SP now I've got used to it).
Only thing to think about with the trailed sprayers (especially a GS with a long wheel base) on 36m is that it's so long that you don't have much room to switch boom off and turn except in perfectly square headlands (this is again exacerbated with Topcon because at the moment I'm struggling to get it to model a steered trailed implement, but have been told of a trick to improve this which I need to try).
Sprayer 1
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- Location
- Tarporley, Cheshire.
The 4 wheel steer and comfort of the 4220 would swing it from a contractors point of view, as long as the sprayer wheels tracked accurately. Surely they can't be so unreliable, can they?
- Location
- Out in the Sticks
I've always wondered why these tractors off arable farms have so few hours ?
- Location
- Huntingdon, UK
Nope, we try and keep the frontline tractors in their 5yr warranty period. There is a contractor near here that puts 3000hrs a year on them and they love them too. If you’re doing high hours they’re more attractive due to the comfort.