Fertiliser Price Tracker

[Steevo]

With the current state of EU/U.K. gas prices, surely no local (EU/U.K.) manufacturer can afford to produce Nitrogen fertiliser presently?

This graph illustrates the new level that gas is at compared to the previous few years (or months even….).

Could this actually lead to real availability issues when the current nitrogen stock is sold…?

I’m not trying to scaremonger but it does look this way to me.

Two questions:
1. if the price of gas goes up by say 50%, how much does the production cost of the nitrogen go up by? I think someone broke this down on this thread at some point.

2. Is there scope to ship nitrogen fertiliser from the US where gas prices are vastly lower?
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Food is gonna be very expensive next year…

 

[county down]

Food is gonna be very expensive next year…

but is it winter cereals sown in good shape they are just trying to take last years profits from us we should only sow 50% of spring cereals to show them we are not going to be taken for mugs anymore

 

[bobk]

Food is gonna be very expensive next year…

Hopefully

 

[CORK]

but is it winter cereals sown in good shape they are just trying to take last years profits from us we should only sow 50% of spring cereals to show them we are not going to be taken for mugs anymore

Are you serious?

 

[britishblue]

Will it? If I am offered £4.15 for my cattle deadweight and I say I need more as my costs have risen dramatically do you think they will care? They will tell me thats all the market will stand. If they then go overweight you are on a hiding to nothing. Price takers not price makers. How much are farmers expected to swallow?

 

[county down]

Are you serious?

yes we have too many people down on us as just stupid old farmers dangle them a carrot but dont let them eat it

 

[Wombat]

but is it winter cereals sown in good shape they are just trying to take last years profits from us we should only sow 50% of spring cereals to show them we are not going to be taken for mugs anymore

This is farming, you couldn't get agreement for a group of farmers to go to a free bar on new years eve

Someone will always have a go as businesses we are unique to each other

 

[county down]

This is farming, you couldn't get agreement for a group of farmers to go to a free bar on new years eve

this time it could be different look what the russian is doing

 

[Steevo]

Will it? If I am offered £4.15 for my cattle deadweight and I say I need more as my costs have risen dramatically do you think they will care? They will tell me thats all the market will stand. If they then go overweight you are on a hiding to nothing. Price takers not price makers. How much are farmers expected to swallow?

Supply and demand moves markets far more than words ever will.

 

[county down]

Supply and demand moves markets far more than words ever will.

the greens might unknowingly become our best friends

 

[CORK]

Are you serious?

If the U.K. and Ireland planted no cereals whatsoever next spring it wouldn’t effect fertiliser prices.

 

[Brisel]

If your rent is greater than bps then that isn’t an option

Don‘t forget the other truly fixed costs as well.

 

[county down]

If the U.K. and Ireland planted no cereals whatsoever next spring it wouldn’t effect fertiliser prices.

but it would affect grain prices

 

[som farmer]

this time it could be different look what the russian is doing

russian gas dropped 15% last week, putin didn't like the thought of nordstream 2, remaining empty, a rare 1 up for the EU.
EU looks weak, and not politically agreed. Bidens a wet blanket, who 'forgets' a lot of things, russia and china, flexing muscles, to see what they can get away with, cant really blame them.
BUT l will be really pissy, if fert drops back down to £4/500 again !

 

[county down]

Don‘t forget the other truly fixed costs as well.

fixed costs are our main problem

 

[JJT]

but it would affect grain prices

Too many would be planting as much as they could thinking they would be the only ones and clean up.

 

[county down]

russian gas dropped 15% last week, putin didn't like the thought of nordstream 2, remaining empty, a rare 1 up for the EU.
EU looks weak, and not politically agreed. Bidens a wet blanket, who 'forgets' a lot of things, russia and china, flexing muscles, to see what they can get away with, cant really blame them.
BUT l will be really pissy, if fert drops back down to £4/500 again !

dont think it will fall before august

 

[CORK]

but it would affect grain prices

Not to a great degree, Ireland is a net importer and the U.K. exports would be small from a global perspective.

 

[som farmer]

but it would affect grain prices

so ? Short supply = better price, and we all want that.

 

[county down]

Not to a great degree, Ireland is a net importer and the U.K. exports would be small from a global perspective.

leave any market 3% undersupplied and you will receive price increases