Fertility figures comparison

[frederick]

Yea but your not tied into 5 year,any problem you just send collars back.
You only outlay is your box and antenna,that’s yours

I'm a convert.
As I said I believe you need rumination to get best succes.
I'm cowmanager.
Allflex and nedap in my research were the other top players. Small advantages and disadvantages for different systems between them.

Interested in who you are supplying.

 

[Real cool]

Ok I see your point,my point was that heatime sold a lot of collars then years down the line battery changes and system upgrades made people think it was expensive having to upgrade system

 

[Real cool]

Our system is nedap based ,good equipment installed correctly works great

 

[frederick]

Ok I see your point,my point was that heatime sold a lot of collars then years down the line battery changes and system upgrades made people think it was expensive having to upgrade system

I think an annual cost has got to be better if your staying to one system than a payment once every five years that's the equivalent of buying a new tractor.
All the original systems though have been left behind in technology terms and needed upgrading anyhow. I think we are now closer to having longer term technology.

In your situation if I took your collars and they came out with an updated system can I send all collars back get the new ones and remain at 3.70.

 

[Real cool]

Obviously there are going to be price increases over the years but on a rental system all up grades are built in and every up grade come with the system

 

[Rossymons]

Semen tie-in?

 

[Real cool]

No semen tie in you use whoever you want

 

[Real cool]

Yes just return collars and then issued with new ones same price

 

[Beef farmer]

Our system is nedap based ,good equipment installed correctly works great

So I can hire your collars for 3 months and return, then same again next year?

 

[Real cool]

You buy the box and antena we instal then you rent collars for 3 months you send back

 

[Farmer Keith]

I’m 10 days off being a full on convert. Cow manager. 97% submission. Non return rate running at 78% (higher with sexed). Not paying anything like £3.70 per month, will be less than half of that.

edit: on the submission rate I did interviene with 10 cows on day -2 5 held 5 returned so make you own judgement as to if it was worth it or not.

 

[Real cool]

Good.for you

 

[Kiss]

You buy the box and antena we instal then you rent collars for 3 months you send back

At £3.70 a month you can virtually get them on for 12 months if only having them 3 months

 

[Farmer Keith]

Good.for you

Be very good for @Jdunn55 to. This tech is brilliant but it has to be reasonably priced or you may as well stick with tail paint.

 

[Beef farmer]

In my opinion as a second year user. Money and in this thread jdunn has none.

This year we have automatic drafting sorted so the only time input we know have for ai is the actual serving itself. So once calving is over there is no longer another increased labour demand period on staff.
With rumination combined with activity a person even if they watched the shed 24hours could not be as accurate.

System choice I think has to be far more carefully considered if you are serving at grass rather than from a shed.

This is a block Calvers view when I only watched for bulling for 4 weeks a year anyhow. If your Ayr calving it has to be an even greater benefit.

What gate you using? How accurate is the gate?
With no fb on cows, it creates a problem

 

[Kiss]

What gate you using? How accurate is the gate?
With no fb on cows, it creates a problem

Do you need a gate or just a head up that she’s in the parlour?

 

[Beef farmer]

Do you need a gate or just a head up that she’s in the parlour?

That would work strap a flashing light to her head?

 

[frederick]

That would work strap a flashing light to her head?

I believe that is what the allflex eartags now do.

I have an atl gate. Have served 140 cows gone to the cubicles to find one.

I know others don't get on with the gate. I do have parlour Id which means lost eartags are immediately noticed. Stand alone drafting if a tag is lost the cow becomes invisible.

 

[Cows 'n grass]

This is what uniform tells me. It also says that calving interval is over 400 days but I guess that's because I'm still milking my empties.

 

[Farmer Keith]

This is what uniform tells me. It also says that calving interval is over 400 days but I guess that's because I'm still milking my empties.
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Do your empties work through into the pregnancy rate also?