Fertilizing winter cereal

Brisel

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Midlands
I'm in Wales, I can! ;)

Out of interest if someone put Urea on on April 3rd in England would their corn not be able to be sold with a Red Tractor sticker? Would this toxic waste have to be landfilled?
I'm not using urea, so I won't be getting caught out. Because it's not law yet, the produce should be fine (what about the toxicity of the inhibitor?) but you'd have a non compliance for RT and whatever that entails.
 

Clive

Staff Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield
I'm in Wales, I can! ;)

Out of interest if someone put Urea on on April 3rd in England would their corn not be able to be sold with a Red Tractor sticker? Would this toxic waste have to be landfilled?

like every red tractor nonsense requirement it depends on what date gets written down !

i suspect march 30th will be national “apply all you N day” for many
 
I'm not using urea, so I won't be getting caught out. Because it's not law yet, the produce should be fine (what about the toxicity of the inhibitor?) but you'd have a non compliance for RT and whatever that entails.

I can't remember this going out for discussion as to when we let a private company dictate the terms of production of crops?
 

Heathland

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
Made it go today :bag: ,never had such poor looking crops,but to be fair I thought they were going to be worse,got a couple of fields that are a complete right off,made a bit of a mess,but its on.
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DrWazzock

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
Made a start. First N on barley and OSR (what’s left of it). N on some grass and also poly.
Rained off the crops mid afternoon by a torrential downpour. Really it was too windy but I’m hoping the smallish dose of N won’t distort things too badly if it’s been blown across a bit. It actually looked fairly even walking across the field despite some powerful gusts. Went to put some N on a field of Timothy sown last summer to find there’s nothing left but AMG. Didn’t bother giving it any. Will have to reseed probably with a herbal ley.
 

Renaultman

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Darlington
Do you, like me, believe that given a more normal year, Zero-tilled crops need less total Nitrogen to achieve the same grain yield?
I’d say somewhere between 10 and 20% less. No point putting more on as it will actually reduce yields and we go over the top of the N response curve.
Is this not only due to lower leaching amounts, but because the vegetative volume of the crop (Straw volume) is less?

Which then begs the question on all obviously yield limited crops this year.
How much do we put on it total?
Interesting 🤔 I normally aim for 200 kg n on all wheats. After this winter I was thinking I will need more, 1/2 DD
 

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