Fibre cement roof - removal, disposal

[gdal]

Hello from a newbie. We are in the process of searching for/acquiring a grass farm in Wales. We are not farmers but have some ideas about what we would like to do with pasture. Lifestyle stuff I guess.
Virtually all the places we have seen have at least some agricultural buildings with fibre cement roofs. Sometimes the buildings are in useable condition, sometimes they are pretty derelict.
If we were to decide to remove a derelict building, any idea of cost to legally dispose of the cement fibre panels? Alternatively, assuming we don't need the space for anything else, is it ok simply to leave it ?
Thank you

 

[puppet]

Firstly, is it asbestos? Someone can do a test.
If the roof is not flaking off and it is dry inside on a wet day then I would leave it

 

[Doing it for the kids]

It will probably be the v common roofing sheets with traces of asbestos in.

cost is small, I think a roll on roll off bin was under £1000.

normally you pay a few hundred for the skip and then a few hundred
Per ton after the first few.

If it is fibre cement then it will be deemed brand new for a Welsh Farm () and still have 30 hrs of love to give.

reading between your lines I wouldn’t worry. You will want every bit of the half dry space you can find 6 months into your master dream (plan)

enjoy

 

[gdal]

He he thank you. That is helpful

 

[GeorgeK]

It can be expensive to get an asbestos roof dismantled and disposed of depending on the situation, contractors may need safety nets installed in the shed in case they fall, scaffolding round the edge to work off and equipment hire in the form of telehandlers and cherry pickers to do it safely (remember legally you are responsible for their safety).
@grainboy is our resident expert

 

[grainboy]

Thanks for the recommendation,
but,
not as frightening as first seems,
Work from, scissor lift or man cage eliminates, netting or scaffolding, no need to access roof, other than from below.
Disposal costs differs greatly, depending on area, and distance.
Each job needs assessment, and costed accordingly.
Present job, approx 30 ton of Asbestos,

 

[Banana Bar]

If it’s fibre cement then it’s no problem

 

[grainboy]

If they are dilapidated buildings which are concerning gdal then I doubt they are just cement fibre, anything pre 84 most probably Asbestos, yes cement fibre but containing Asbestos, commonly referred to as Chryslotile.

 

[gdal]

If they are dilapidated buildings which are concerning gdal then I doubt they are just cement fibre, anything pre 84 most probably Asbestos, yes cement fibre but containing Asbestos, commonly referred to as Chryslotile.

Yes that’s my assumption. Not so worried about the nice big modernish buildings that are useable and useful. It’s more the old dilapidated sheds that are a concern. But I guess I do have the option of just leaving them alone, since that seems to be what the sellers have done. Unless I need to do something with the space where they stand...

 

[tomlad]

Would it state in the farm listing what material the roof was , if it was haserdous ??

 

[Doing it for the kids]

Would it state in the farm listing what material the roof was , if it was haserdous ??

doubt it. Look on the local planning portal and see if you can find when it got planning. That will give you some idea of build date

 

[john432]

JCB!

 

[PSQ]

JCB!

Local skip company tried that, and it ended up with a fine and costs in the region of £250,000.

 

[grainboy]

JCB!

what do you mean ?
just demolish ?
and then what ?
Suggestions like that are irresponsible !!!!’

 

[Ffermer Bach]

I think you will find that virtually all farms have some form of asbestos clad building, if it needs to be removed expect it to cost a lot, not sure how much, but you would struggle to find a farm without asbestos big 6 roofing sheets, I think there are enough things to worry about without stressing over roofing sheets. If you are that worried, get a bit of the roof tested before you buy and then some quotes for stripping/removal.

I did read a book by Christopher Booker arguing that white asbestos is not dangerous (only in the legislation because of lobbying by the asbestos removal industry), but blue and brown I believe are definitely dangerous, however white asbestos is in the legislation and I believe it is often that there is more than one type of asbestos in a product.

 

[john432]

what do you mean ?
just demolish ?
and then what ?
Suggestions like that are irresponsible !!!!’

Like everything on earth,it's come from the ground, and eventually goes back to the ground, all this nonsense about removing and disposing damp rotten sheets ,is just like an undertaker, costs a fortune, but ends back in the earth.

 

[grainboy]

I think you will find that virtually all farms have some form of asbestos clad building, if it needs to be removed expect it to cost a lot, not sure how much, but you would struggle to find a farm without asbestos big 6 roofing sheets, I think there are enough things to worry about without stressing over roofing sheets. If you are that worried, get a bit of the roof tested before you buy and then some quotes for stripping/removal.

I did read a book by Christopher Booker arguing that white asbestos is not dangerous (only in the legislation because of lobbying by the asbestos removal industry), but blue and brown I believe are definitely dangerous, however white asbestos is in the legislation and I believe it is often that there is more than one type of asbestos in a product.

Like everything on earth,it's come from the ground, and eventually goes back to the ground, all this nonsense about removing and disposing damp rotten sheets ,is just like an undertaker, costs a fortune, but ends back in the earth.

These two postings just show how a little knowledge can be dangerous,

 

[Wurzeetoo]

Count yourself lucky in the shops we have to have annual condition reports if any asbestos in the building. There always is some hidden somewhere. Costs a ridiculous amount to remove as we have to jump through hoops including having an independent air test inspector on site at all times. But such is life and I certainly wouldn’t want to be anywhere near a digger smashing it up. Often wonder what the current material will be an issue in the future mdf? Plasterboard? Going on current recycling rules and procedures could even be such things as plastic fibre enforced concrete

 

[Kidds]

I don't think it is overly expensive to get rid of farm asbestos properly. Done it a few times here for various reasons and its satisfying to do it properly and be shut of it. One instance was tidying up after a previous generations JFDI and JCB approach, saved absolutely nothing in the long run just passed it on to the next generation and increased the cost x10.
I have another roof to come off soon and that will be disposed of properly too even though I could just bury it and nobody any the wiser.

 

[Doing it for the kids]

JCB!

if you are suggesting bury it and have done yourself then I hope you get caught and fined.

Local skip company tried that, and it ended up with a fine and costs in the region of £250,000.

good! The cost of removal for average farm stuff is not a lot of money.

what do you mean ?
just demolish ?
and then what ?
Suggestions like that are irresponsible !!!!’

exactly!