l have an environment agency maintained river alongside a block of rented land. There's a permissive footpath running by the river. My question is can anyone go fishing with a rod licence? For various reasons I'd rather they weren't. Any information appreciated as l have no clue. Tia.
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Pieces_of_Eight
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All depends who owns the sporting rights, which cover fishing and shooting but not hunting. Quite often then sporting rights are held by the landowner who neither fishes nor shoots so both a left wild without much value.
The sporting rights for fishing could be separate from the shooting.
The fishing could be held by a club who rent from the landowner, or sometimes there are designated "free stretches" where anyone with a rod licence can go and fish.
Disputes arising from access to free (or club) fishing are quite common
The sporting rights for fishing could be separate from the shooting.
The fishing could be held by a club who rent from the landowner, or sometimes there are designated "free stretches" where anyone with a rod licence can go and fish.
Disputes arising from access to free (or club) fishing are quite common
YorkshireAndrew
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- Location
- West / North Yorks border
No one can fish anywhere without permission . All a rod license does is allow you to fish but you still need permission .
There's no club I'm pretty sure. I guess the sporting rights are either retained by the landowner or on my tenancy. I will have to check. Just thought l should check before I confront anyone.All depends who owns the sporting rights, which cover fishing and shooting but not hunting. Quite often then sporting rights are held by the landowner who neither fishes nor shoots so both a left wild without much value.
The sporting rights for fishing could be separate from the shooting.
The fishing could be held by a club who rent from the landowner, or sometimes there are designated "free stretches" where anyone with a rod licence can go and fish.
Disputes arising from access to free (or club) fishing are quite common
Darren
Member
- Location
- Lincolnshire
Are they coarse or trout anglers ?
Pieces_of_Eight
Member
If you have people turning up to fish, I'm guessing the fishing rights would have some value.
Coarse.
Not many, they just seem to have started and l would prefer to nip it in the bud.
Darren
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- Location
- Lincolnshire
The rod licence does not entitle you to fish anywhere, for that you need the permission of the owner of the fishing rights. All fishing rights in non-tidal waters are owned by someone. The Environment Agency produces both an electronic and hard copy guide to angling within each of their regions. For Canal & River Trust fisheries use the Find a Fishery search from
Landy Nick
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Quite a few rivers have public footpaths alongside them. Doesn't mean that every Tom Dick or Harry have the right to fish them without permission. The fishing can still be private, or a club water.
llamedos
New Member
Same as what others have said, a rod license gives you EA license to fish, but you still need the land owners permission, chances are a local club may have been given this permission in the distant past, and would pay a nominal fee for the stretch, sporting rights are reserved for trout, salmon and char(which you wont have) and these command high prices for rights.
Check your tenancy, but also ask one of those fishing which angling club they belong to. Ask as if you are a passing stranger kind of is the fishing any good here mate, do I need to be a member of a club to fish it. dependent on their answer(ask a few) if non are members of any club, then you have your answer.
What I would say though, is that rather than ban everyone, let it out to a local angling club for a nominal fee, and you state how many can fish at once - no matches etc, they will be the best eyes and ears you will have as far as keeping undesirables and poachers off. Get them working for you, not against you.
Check your tenancy, but also ask one of those fishing which angling club they belong to. Ask as if you are a passing stranger
kind of is the fishing any good here mate, do I need to be a member of a club to fish it. dependent on their answer(ask a few) if non are members of any club, then you have your answer.What I would say though, is that rather than ban everyone, let it out to a local angling club for a nominal fee, and you state how many can fish at once - no matches etc, they will be the best eyes and ears you will have as far as keeping undesirables and poachers off. Get them working for you, not against you.
- Location
- Wales
Public Footpaths (thankfully) have very definitive rules and one of them is that they are ONLY for making a bona fide journey along. This means that walkers are not permitted to hang about on them or film from them, picnic upon them etc etc etc ... which means that they would not be allowed to fish from them either
llamedos
New Member
Public Footpaths (thankfully) have very definitive rules and one of them is that they are ONLY for making a bona fide journey along. This means that walkers are not permitted to hang about on them or film from them, picnic upon them etc etc etc ... which means that they would not be allowed to fish from them either
Rather annoyingly, public footpaths also infringe the right to sit on a river bank where you have permission to do so and fish.
Exfarmer
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- Location
- Bury St Edmunds
If the fishermen have permission from the Riparian owner, then they have every right to be there.
The riparian owner, is the person with fishing rights to the river and may have no connection to your landlord.
Anyone in possession of a rod licence, is entitled to check on a fisherman to ensure he has the necessary permits
The riparian owner, is the person with fishing rights to the river and may have no connection to your landlord.
Anyone in possession of a rod licence, is entitled to check on a fisherman to ensure he has the necessary permits
I am not a farmer but i have a question: I live on a housing estate that has recently been built in area around a working dock. Fishing has never been permitted & the dock was previously inaccessible due to fencing, therefore required anglers to trespass.
Now that it is a housing estate the public footpaths make the water accessible. The dock owners still prohibit fishing on their site, but allow anglers to fish from the public footpaths.
A) I don't believe they have to authority to give that permission as they have no responsibility for the public areas.
B) I can have anglers turn up outside my groundfloor apartment at any time of day or night (even 1/2/3 o'clock in the morning ) stay as long as the want (up 16 hours on occasion).. surely this isn't allowed as it is a public footpath?
Now that it is a housing estate the public footpaths make the water accessible. The dock owners still prohibit fishing on their site, but allow anglers to fish from the public footpaths.
A) I don't believe they have to authority to give that permission as they have no responsibility for the public areas.
B) I can have anglers turn up outside my groundfloor apartment at any time of day or night (even 1/2/3 o'clock in the morning ) stay as long as the want (up 16 hours on occasion).. surely this isn't allowed as it is a public footpath?
- Location
- South wales
At a guess they the owners don’t “allow” fishing they have no choice as it’s a public footpath and unless the fishermen are causing a disturbance I’m not sure they can be removed from a public place
Exfarmer
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- Location
- Bury St Edmunds
I think if the dock is tidal and the area is a public place with no Health and safety concerns, then the fishermen actually have a right to be there. Not good if they are causing a nuisance
- Location
- Ceredigion
Is it a boundery river ,if so the owner would only own to the middle of the river bed in most cases
Ramrod
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- Location
- Skendleby Psalter, Lincolnshire
Now there's a rarity